<div>Jim,</div>
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<div>I can't speak for the other contest board representatives - I can only tell you about why I voted no on this.</div>
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<div>My reasoning and this was based on feedback from people in my district was that the 1st radius should not set the precedent for the rest of the maneuver. For example, the pilot may be rushed into pulling a very sharp radius on the 1st radius and then would have to do all remaining radii the same which could upset their rythm for the remainder of the maneuver which would end up penalizing them more. I would also like to see how this rule works out in FAI first before deciding whether this is something that we should adopt in the AMA classes.</div>
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<div>-Derek<br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:19 AM, J N Hiller <<a href="mailto:jnhiller@earthlink.net">jnhiller@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p><span><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Derek, what was the opposition to RCA-09-3?</span></font></span></p>
<p><span><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks</span></font></span></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><font face="Tahoma" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span></b> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Derek Koopowitz<br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, July 08, 2008 8:38 PM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> 'General pattern discussion'<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2009-2010 Rules proposals</span></font></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><font face="Arial" color="blue" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This was passed by the contest board on June 15th. The only proposal that did not pass was RCA-09-3</span></font><font color="black"><span style="COLOR: black"></span></font></p>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:47 AM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> [NSRCA-discussion] 2009-2010 Rules proposals</span></font><font color="black"><span style="COLOR: black"></span></font></p>
<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><font face="Times New Roman" color="black" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Have not heard much lately, is this likely the 2009-2010 Masters sequence? Copied from AMA site:<br>
<br>404 Masters<br><br>1. Takeoff (U) K=1<br>2. Half Clover with 2/4 pt. Roll Up, ½ Roll Down (U) K=4<br>3. Humpty Bump (pull, pull, pull) 2/4 pt. Roll Up K=2<br>4. Eight Point Roll (D) K=4<br>5. Half Cuban Eight, 2/2 pt. Roll Down, Exit Inverted K=2<br>
6. Avalanche with 1 ½ Snap (from bottom) (U) K=4<br>7. Half Square Loop on Corner with ½ Rolls, Exit Inverted K=2<br>8. Eight Sided Loop (from top), Exit Inverted (D) K=4<br>9. Reverse Humpty Bump with 1/2 or 1/4 Rolls Down and Up, Exit Upright K=3<br>
10. 45 Degree Down, 1 ½ Positive Snap Roll, Exit Inverted (U) K=3<br>11. Stall Turn with ½ Rolls Up and Down, Exit Inverted K=2<br>12. Inverted Four Point Roll (D) K=4<br>13. Humpty Bump (push, pull, pull), 2/4 pt Roll Up, ½ Roll Down, Exit Upright K=3<br>
14. Figure M with ¾ Rolls (U) K=5<br>15. Top Hat with ¼ Rolls K=2<br>16. Two 2/2 pt. Rolls Reversed (D) K=4<br>17. Immelman Turn K=2<br>18. Hour Glass with 2/4 pt. Roll Down (mid entry, top first), Exit Inverted (U) K=5<br>
19. Mid-Entry Figure 9 (top first) K=1<br>20. Double Immelman with Full Rolls (D) K=3<br>21. Half Square Loop with 2/2 pt. Roll Up, Exit Inverted K=2<br>22. 2 ½ Turn Inverted Spin (U) K=3<br>23. Landing (U) K=1<br>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><font face="Times New Roman" color="black" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Bob Kane<br><a href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com" target="_blank">getterflash@yahoo.com</a> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="COLOR: black"></span></font></p>
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