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<DIV>Bob,</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I'm talking about the foot print of the
maneuver, like in the Double Immelmann. The height of the maneuver should be the
same as the straight lines before the loops, not sure if the rule book precisely
calls for that to be square shape either but we still look for that. Can you
tell that the shape of the horizontal length of given maneuver is 5
feet longer than the vertical? I know I can't. 20 + feet difference it
starts to look like a rectangle that's all.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ken</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:29
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Correct
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<P>Ken,</P>
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<P>There is no requirement for the manuever to be square. Vertical lines
must be vertical, 45s must be 45s, all radii must be constant and equal.
The only way to get a square out of this is to extend the vertical and
diagonal lines until they intersect, which is outside the boundary of
the manuever. If someone flies low and with large radii, this could
actually put the lower intersections below ground level. Do we downgrade
the mauever then because part of it was out of the box? :-)</P>
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<P>The height (from bottom of lower loop segments to the top of the
upper loop segments) will always be less than the width (vertical line
to vertical line). Looking for the manuever to be square (or rectangle,
for that matter) should not be a judging criteria, IMHO. <BR><BR>Bob
R<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 7/8/08, Ken Velez
<I><kvelez@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:<BR></P>
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I think this is consider a square althoug the cad program shows a smaller
leg at the ends due to the rdii but the foot print is a square. I know you
said the fundamental shape is a square I think calling it a rectangle will
create confusion. As a Judge Iwill be looking for a Square shape>
Ken
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