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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Richard Lewis<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:47
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Correct Geometry on N</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Note that there is a similar effect of radii on six side
loops. The bigger the radius, the narrower the maneuver becomes relative
to the overall height due to the width being measured from tangent to tangent
on the radii and the height being measured flat to flat. A properly flown
six sided loop with any radii will always appear slightly egg shaped...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Richard<br>
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<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><b><i><span
style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Chad</span></i></b></st1:place></st1:country-region><b><i><span
style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> Northeast
<chadnortheast@shaw.ca></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'>Hi Bob<br>
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Ahhh damn radii, forgot about that :) You are correct, the height is
truncated because of the radius....larger they are the more it truncates the
height.<br>
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Here is a cad sketch. In this case the radius is 5% of the vertical line
length. Visually it looks appropriate for the size of the maneuver.<br>
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<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Chad</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
From: Bob Richards <bob@toprudder.com><br>
Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 9:24 am<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Correct Geometry on N<br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
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> Unless my geometry is wrong (and I was really good at geometry <br>
> in schooll) then the only way it can be a square is if the <br>
> corner radii are = 0. It should always be a little wider than <br>
> it is tall. If not, then the diagonals are not 45 degree lines.<br>
> <br>
> Draw it on paper, or with CAD, and you will see.<br>
> <br>
> Bob R<br>
> <br>
> --- On Tue, 7/8/08, Chad Northeast <chadnortheast@shaw.ca> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Its definitely a square,<br>
> <br>
> Basically you have two 45x45 right triangles with the right <br>
> angle vertex's (the 90's) intersecting.<br>
> <br>
> In that case the vertical lines are twice the length of each <br>
> triangles horizontal length (when oriented as an hourglass), <br>
> therefore two of them equal the height of the verticals....and a <br>
> square you have!<br>
> <br>
> The 45 lines end up being about 1.4 times longer than the <br>
> vertical lines, if you fly the correct geometry.<br>
> <br>
> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Chad</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
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