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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>You can
also tap into the engine mounting lug and install the pressure tap there with
the same effect.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>John Pavlick<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 04, 2008 12:28
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
 pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Venus Engine Question</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I'm not sure you can extend one of the holes into the
crankcase on an OS120 Ax. Be careful. The reason you can do that on the OS160
Fx&nbsp;is because that engine also came in a fuel-injected version. The
casting was designed to allow one of the backplate bolt holes to be drilled in
the manner you described.&nbsp;I don't think&nbsp;the 120 is the sme in this
regard. I just recently tapped an OS91 backplate because it had no way of
drilling one of the bolt holes so that it accessed the crankcase. I used the
6-32 fitting that comes with the Perry pump. I drilled the hole exactly in the
center of the backplate - the pressure tap extends just slightly past the
surface but it won't hit anything (crank, rod) if you put it right in the
center of the backplate. I haven't tapped a 120 yet but it may (or may not) be
the same as the 91. I've seen some OS engines with a boss cast into the
backplate so that you can easily install a pressure tap. Not sure how the 120
is.&nbsp;Let us know what you end up doing and how it works out.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>If you end up using the OS 120, pick up one of the
Fuel-Injected OS 140 Rx rear bearings and install it in the 120 before you
start it. You won't have any bearing problems if you do this. If you can't find
a Fuel-Injected 140 bearing, purchase a double sealed, stainless steel rear
bearing for your 120 from Boca Bearings.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>John Pavlick<br>
<a href="http://www.idseng.com">http://www.idseng.com</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:jnhiller@earthlink.net" title="jnhiller@earthlink.net">J N Hiller</a>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Friday, July 04,
2008 11:53 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Venus Engine Question<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle28><font size=2 color="#993366"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks all for the info. I believe I
will go with the Perry. Adding a pressure tap to the back plate is not a
problem but I may get the special back plate screw the 1.40 uses and extend one
of the holes in the crankcase. I may try it without the pump first but suspect
the transition may lag. I am ironing on the paint while waiting for the
backordered pipe.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle28><font size=2 color="#993366"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Jim H.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>george w. kennie<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 04, 2008 7:01
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> jpavlick@idseng.com; <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Venus Engine Question</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I once
installed a Kline in my Focus which had a 150 2 Stroke in it and the pressure
generated by that particular engine was too high, causing the thing to load
up,&nbsp;so I installed an after-market needle valve in the pressure line and
adjusted the available pressure to the tank and it seemed to work quite well.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>G.</span></font><font
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color:black'> <a href="mailto:jpavlick@idseng.com" title="jpavlick@idseng.com">John
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color:black'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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border:none;padding:0in'><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:25 PM</span></font><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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border:none;padding:0in'><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Venus Engine Question</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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border:none;padding:0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The Perry doesn't require the tank to be
pressurized like the Kline does. On the other hand,&nbsp;I believe the Kline
can be run with muffler pressure to the tank whereas the Perry needs crankcase
pressure to the pump. This can be a pain if you don't feel like tapping the
backplate of your engine. Either system can work very well or very poorly.
You'll find that people will swear by either one but not necessarily
both.&nbsp;I personally have had better luck with the Perry so that's
what&nbsp;I use. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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border:none;padding:0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>John Pavlick<br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>J N Hiller
&lt;jnhiller@earthlink.net&gt;</span></i></b> wrote:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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class=EmailStyle27><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Jay, how does the Perry pump compare to a Kline?<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jay Marshall<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 03, 2008 7:27
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
 pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Venus Engine Question</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>I used the Perry VP-30 and an APC &nbsp;15-10 prop.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=4 color=navy face="Brush Script MT"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:"Brush Script MT";color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Jay
Marshall</span></font></i></b><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>William C. Harden<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:55
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
 pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Venus Engine Question</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Thanks.&nbsp; What prop are you using and what is the Perry Pump
model number that you are using?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Bill</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jay Marshall<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:34
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
 pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Venus Engine Question</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>I added ½ oz. It will depend how heavy your servos are. I used a
different fuel tank and moved it back to the wing tube to keep the CG constant.
This necessitated a Perry pump.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=4 color=navy face="Brush Script MT"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:"Brush Script MT";color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Jay
Marshall</span></font></i></b><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>William C. Harden<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:16
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
 pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Venus Engine Question</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Jay,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Did you have to add weight to the tail to balance the plane?&nbsp;
If so, how much weight did you add?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Bill</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jay Marshall<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:53
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
 pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Venus Engine Question</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>I use the stock muffler. The engine is mounted so that the muffler
is at the bottom of the fuse. This puts the head at appx 8 o&#8217;clock.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=4 color=navy face="Brush Script MT"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:"Brush Script MT";color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Jay
Marshall</span></font></i></b><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>William C. Harden<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 02, 2008
10:20 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
 pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Venus Engine Question</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Jay, </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Are you using the stock muffler on the AX or something different?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Bill</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jay Marshall<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 02, 2008
7:24 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
 pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Venus Engine Question</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Sound doesn&#8217;t win! Go with the AX &#8211; lots more power,
more reliable. (I have both &#8211; and a Venus)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=4 color=navy face="Brush Script MT"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:"Brush Script MT";color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Jay
Marshall</span></font></i></b><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Terry Beachler<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 02, 2008
8:19 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [NSRCA-discussion] Venus
Engine Question</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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border:none;padding:0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Hi Flyers,<br>
<br>
I am planning to build a Venus II. The OS 120AX is suggested and also O.S. 120
Surpass 4C. Any thoughts from the group on choice. I'll be flying Sportsman. My
buddy goofy Bob Wilson leans toward the 120AX. I am somewhat partial to 4
strokes. I like that V-8 sound and low end torque.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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color:black'><X-SIGSEP></X-SIGSEP>Terry Beachler<br>
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Buzz jobs should be targeted to the windsock at: N 40 49.944 W 89 33.230<br>
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Visit the PRCM</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'> web
site at: <a href="http://www.peoriarcmodelers.com/">www.peoriarcmodelers.com</a>
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</span></font><font color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana;
color:black'>Map link to old field: </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><a href="http://tinyurl.com/5wys9l" eudora=autourl>http://tinyurl.com/5wys9l</a>
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</span></font><font color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana;
color:black'>Map link to new field: </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><a href="http://tinyurl.com/29b7gm" eudora=autourl>http://tinyurl.com/29b7gm</a>
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Four Star Racing Series: <a href="http://fourstarracingseries.com/"
eudora=autourl>http://fourstarracingseries.com</a> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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