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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>True. I didn&#8217;t have any problem
drilling and taping the backplate though.</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> [mailto:</span></font><font
 size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b></span></font><font size=2
 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>John Pavlick</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:25
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>General pattern
 discussion</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Venus Engine Question</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>The Perry doesn't require the tank to be pressurized
like the Kline does. On the other hand,&nbsp;I believe the Kline can be run
with muffler pressure to the tank whereas the Perry needs crankcase pressure to
the pump. This can be a pain if you don't feel like tapping the backplate of
your engine. Either system can work very well or very poorly. You'll find that
people will swear by either one but not necessarily both.&nbsp;I personally
have had better luck with the Perry so that's what&nbsp;I use. </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>John Pavlick<br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>J N Hiller
&lt;jnhiller@earthlink.net&gt;</span></i></b> wrote:</span></font></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Jay, how does the
Perry pump compare to a Kline?</span></font></span></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Jim Hiller</span></font></span></p>

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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jay Marshall<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 03, 2008 7:27
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Venus Engine Question</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I used the Perry VP-30
and an APC &nbsp;15-10 prop.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><i><font size=4 color=navy
face="Brush Script MT"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Brush Script MT";
color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Jay Marshall</span></font></i></b><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>William C. Harden<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:55
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Venus Engine Question</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks.&nbsp; What prop
are you using and what is the Perry Pump model number that you are using?</span></font></p>

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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jay Marshall<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:34
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Venus Engine Question</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I added ½ oz. It will
depend how heavy your servos are. I used a different fuel tank and moved it
back to the wing tube to keep the CG constant. This necessitated a Perry pump.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><i><font size=4 color=navy
face="Brush Script MT"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Brush Script MT";
color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Jay Marshall</span></font></i></b><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>William C. Harden<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:16
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Venus Engine Question</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jay,</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Did you have to add
weight to the tail to balance the plane?&nbsp; If so, how much weight did you
add?</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Bill</span></font></p>

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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jay Marshall<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:53
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Venus Engine Question</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I use the stock muffler.
The engine is mounted so that the muffler is at the bottom of the fuse. This
puts the head at appx 8 o&#8217;clock.</span></font></p>

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face="Brush Script MT"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Brush Script MT";
color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Jay Marshall</span></font></i></b><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>William C. Harden<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 02, 2008
10:20 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Venus Engine Question</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jay, </span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Are you using the stock
muffler on the AX or something different?</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Bill</span></font></p>

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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jay Marshall<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 02, 2008
7:24 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Venus Engine Question</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sound doesn&#8217;t win!
Go with the AX &#8211; lots more power, more reliable. (I have both &#8211; and
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Terry Beachler<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 02, 2008
8:19 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [NSRCA-discussion] Venus
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Hi Flyers,<br>
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I am planning to build a Venus II. The OS 120AX is suggested and also O.S. 120
Surpass 4C. Any thoughts from the group on choice. I'll be flying Sportsman. My
buddy goofy Bob Wilson leans toward the 120AX. I am somewhat partial to 4
strokes. I like that V-8 sound and low end torque.</span></font></p>

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face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><X-SIGSEP>Terry
Beachler<br>
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<br>
Buzz jobs should be targeted to the windsock at: N 40 49.944 W 89 33.230<br>
<br>
Visit the PRCM</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'> web
site at: <a href="http://www.peoriarcmodelers.com/">www.peoriarcmodelers.com</a>
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<br>
</span></font><font color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana;
color:black'>Map link to old field: </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><a href="http://tinyurl.com/5wys9l" eudora=autourl>http://tinyurl.com/5wys9l</a>
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</span></font><font color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana;
color:black'>Map link to new field: </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><a href="http://tinyurl.com/29b7gm" eudora=autourl>http://tinyurl.com/29b7gm</a>
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<br>
Four Star Racing Series: <a href="http://fourstarracingseries.com/"
eudora=autourl>http://fourstarracingseries.com</a> </span></font></p>

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