Well, I guess they did do a couple Split-S's, sucked to be those guys . . . <br><br>I tend to discount incredible aviation stories that are passed down thru the ages. . . (no offense to our more elderly aviators on the list). . . .<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Martin X. Moleski, SJ <<a href="mailto:moleski@canisius.edu">moleski@canisius.edu</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<a href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com" target="_blank">rcmaster199@aol.com</a> wrote:<br>
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A few of us were discussing just such an occurrence recently which apparently happened by accident and darned near crashed the plane. Dean remembered the details which went something like this:<br>
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The pilot of the 727 about 20 years ago had the plane trimmed as far aft as possible and had inputed a bit of flap to use fuel most efficiently. The co-pilot, soon after returning from a visit to the loo, saw the trimmed flap and flipped the switch to return the flap to neutral. This action immediately made the plane too tail heavy which made the plane do a pretty violent half snap to inverted. ...<br>
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TWA Flight 841, 04 APR 1979. Harvey G. "Hoot" Gibson.<br>
<br>
The NTSB says one LE slat failed to retract fully, causing the<br>
plane to roll to the right:<br>
<br>
Final report:<br>
<a href="http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19790404-0" target="_blank">http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19790404-0</a><br>
<br>
Accident report:<br>
<a href="http://amelia.db.erau.edu/reports/ntsb/aar/AAR81-08.pdf" target="_blank">http://amelia.db.erau.edu/reports/ntsb/aar/AAR81-08.pdf</a><br>
<br>
The Accident report notes that the pilot erased all of the<br>
cockpit voice recorder data (CVR) after the plane landed<br>
in Detroit. Although the pilot and copilot denied actuating<br>
the flaps, the NTSB concluded that they could not have<br>
deployed by accident and suggests that the crew was trying<br>
to get 2 degrees extension of the trailing edge flaps.<br>
<br>
If all of the leading edge slats had retracted or if the<br>
pilot had responded to the second roll to the right sooner,<br>
there wouldn't have been a problem.<br>
<br>
"After recognizing the right roll condition, the captain rolled the aircraft<br>
to a near wings-level upright position; thereafter, through untimely use<br>
of the flight controls, he permitted the aircraft to roll to the right into<br>
an uncontrollable attitude. The captain probably was distracted<br>
immediately after restoring the aircraft to near level flight by his<br>
efforts in attempting to rectify the source of the control problem."<br>
<br>
They went from 39,000 feet to 5,000 feet in 63 seconds.<br>
<br>
Hmm. I'm going to add these links to the Wikipedia article:<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_841_%281979%29" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_841_(1979)</a>.<br>
<br>
Marty<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
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