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<DIV><SPAN class=250401313-17062008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Even though
Round 4 isn't posted and a 5th flight was only flown by one of them, I had
talked with Joe and Ryan Sunday and I could barely make out what they were
saying most of the time one the phone. Either the speaker phone was bad or they
were laughing too much about all the fun they had. Should the 4th round have
counted... probably so. Would it have made a difference in placing, not at all.
Ryan would have had 3000 and AC 2893 or something around there. When I talked to
Ryan he seemed more upset, yet still laughing about, his screwed up rev. 2 of
4pt loop (instead of the actual 4pt loop). But it's done, over and I'm sure that
CD's will make the decision to fly 4-P and 2-F or whatever in the future at the
beginning of contests. Since the Nats will be past us soon, we shouldn't have a
need for "practice rounds" at contests anymore.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250401313-17062008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250401313-17062008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Now about
those spins.......</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT
size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR>www.jasonshulman.com<BR>www.shulmanaviation.com<BR>www.composite-arf.com</FONT>
</P>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Woodward,
Jim (US SSA)<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:13 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
General pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] FW: Harvest -
F-Round or not?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I talked to Ryan
quite a bit last night. I’m pretty sure he felt it was a “real” round
when he took off. He flew a bad loop with 4-point and left the door
open. A/C zeroed some maneuvers, caught or not, and it was after he
DNF’d the round and (allegedly) spoke to the score keeper to get it removed
(or something), than it became “Bermuda’ed” and was ghosted from the
results. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Here it is in a
nutshell – True, there were only two FAI pilots so you can say it only
affected 2 people, but when you saddle up for a round of F09, or competition
in any class, you better be prepared to take your medicine. Would this
result have been posted if A/C would have finished the round and beaten
Ryan?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">However mild this
situation is perceived to be (only two people right?), one of the most
experienced top-competitors in our district (2006 Masters Champion) walks away
feeling cheated-out. If we are to maintain healthy competition in all
classes (including FAI) this type of stuff can’t happen again.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks,</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jim<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Jon Lowe<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, June 16, 2008 10:23
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Harvest -
F-Round or not?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We only flew 5 rounds and called
it a contest on Saturday. Wouldn't have changed the standings to do more
(<FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy">damm</SPAN></FONT> it!). FAI
pilots (all two of them) decided to make the F09 5th round practice
only, as I understand it.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Jon Lowe<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
JShulman <jshulman@cfl.rr.com><BR>To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Sent: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 5:57
pm<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Harvest - F-Round or
not?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">hmmmmm... was that
before or after the flights?...lol</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A
href="http://www.jasonshulman.com"
target=_blank>www.jasonshulman.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com"
target=_blank>www.shulmanaviation.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.composite-arf.com"
target=_blank>www.composite-arf.com</A></SPAN></FONT> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
[<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Keith Hoard<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, June 16, 2008 6:48
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Harvest
- F-Round or not?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I think they did it "For Training
Purposes Only". . . <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Woodward, Jim (US
SSA) <<A
href="mailto:jim.woodward@baesystems.com">jim.woodward@baesystems.com</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Guys,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Was an F09 round flown in
Harvest by both competitors? I did not see it posted on the RCU
pictures. Was this round flown and not shown?
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jim</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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