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<DIV>I agree 100%.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><STRONG>Of course it would..</STRONG> Any information that in real time is attached to the model or has feedback to the pilot is not allowed. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> Del</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 01, 2008 7:46 AM</DIV>
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<DIV>In the screen the pilot is getting altitude and heading information. I am sure that much more is coming like speed, wing position, etc. I am wondering is that information could be considered <STRONG>"electronic information from the model to ground". </STRONG></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It is still open loop – not feedback in the classic control theory sense. The pilot is in the loop at all times.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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A N></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pilot Cam</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Interpretation. However, it is clear that there is a electronic feedback from the model to the pilot using the pilot cam. My vote is that won't be allowed. </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">--<BR>Vicente "Vince" Bortone</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">longer than two (2) meters (78.74 inches).</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">4.4. Equipment Functions. </SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=TimesNewRomanPSMT size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: TimesNewRomanPSMT">Radio</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">control equipment shall be of the open loop type</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">(i.e. no electronic feedback from the model to the</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">ground). Auto pilot control utilizing inertia,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">light, gravity, or any other type of terrestrial</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">reference is prohibited. Automatic control</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">sequencing (preprogramming) or automatic</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">control timing devices are prohibited.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><STRONG><B><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Examples of control functions permitted:</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">529</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Will this be legal for pattern?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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