<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">That 4-stroke smoke trail, but without the oil to clean up afterwards.<br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Budd Engineering</div><div><a href="mailto:jerry@buddengineering.com">jerry@buddengineering.com</a></div><div><a href="http://www.buddengineering.com">http://www.buddengineering.com</a></div></span> </div><br><div><div>On May 30, 2008, at 6:56 AM, JShulman wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><div><span class="750425313-30052008"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="3">Hmmmm, boost in power AND weight reduction... I like that...</font></span></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><font size="2">Regards,<br>Jason<br><a href="http://www.jasonshulman.com">www.jasonshulman.com</a><br><a href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com">www.shulmanaviation.com</a><br><a href="http://www.composite-arf.com">www.composite-arf.com</a></font></div><blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px; "><div class="OutlookMessageHeader" dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>John Konneker<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Friday, May 30, 2008 9:50 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com">homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com</a>; General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Desperate-Final Update...I hope...<br><br></font></div>You know...<br>The P-51 Mustang had many inovations...<br>The laminar flow wing airfoil, the radiator scoop that due to the air expanding from being heated as it passed thru was actually a net gain in thrust.&nbsp; Something else<br>they did that seems so obvious now is they angled the exhaust stacks rearward.&nbsp; The directed gases actually created slight thrust as well.<br>Maybe you guys are on to something with this smoke and flames coming from your electrics.&nbsp; How 'bout at the Nats you set your plane on fire when you take off?<br>Just a thought...<br>;-)<br>JLK<br><br><br><blockquote><hr>Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 06:39:40 -0700<br>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com">homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com</a><br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Desperate-Final Update...I hope...<br><br><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" background="http://none" border="0" style="font-size: 10pt; width: 100%; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><tbody><tr><td valign="top">And letting the smoke and flames out is loosing energy.. You must find a way to keep this in the motor.. Makes for great uplines..<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><img src="http://mail.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/03.gif" nosend="1"><br><br><div><strong><em><font face="comic sans ms" color="#0000bf" size="3">Chris</font></em></strong></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><br><br>--- On<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>Fri, 5/30/08,<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com">rcmaster199@aol.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><i>&lt;<a href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com">rcmaster199@aol.com</a>></i></b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>wrote:<br><blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; ">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com">rcmaster199@aol.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>&lt;<a href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com">rcmaster199@aol.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Desperate-Final Update...I hope...<br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>Date: Friday, May 30, 2008, 6:23 AM<br><br><div id="EC_yiv1057226241"><div>If youse guys are letting the smoke and flames out, you are using the wrong seals.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>MattK<span style="display: inline-block; "></span></div><div><br></div><div><font face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?" rel="nofollow">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Budd Engineering<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:36 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Desperate-Final Update...I hope...<br><br></font></div><div id="EC_AOLMsgPart_3_b87cf9f8-3134-47ad-8e21-22913d63db05"><blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px; ">Hey Jas,<div><br></div><div>Smoke is for amateurs. &nbsp;I had one with flames!<div><br></div><div>: )</div><div><br></div><div>Jerry<br><div><span class="EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><div><br class="EC_Apple-interchange-newline">Budd Engineering</div><div><a href="mailto:jerry@buddengineering.com" rel="nofollow">jerry@buddengineering.com</a></div><div><a href="http://www.buddengineering.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.buddengineering.com</a></div></span></div><br><div><div>On May 29, 2008, at 7:01 PM, JShulman wrote:</div><br class="EC_Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><span class="EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><div><div><span class="EC_970305901-30052008"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff">Chris, I already sent out all the "stuff" guys wanted from my bin... I don't remember a Hacker request.....lol. Probably cause they aren't for sale...lol.</font></span></div><div><span class="EC_970305901-30052008"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff"></font></span>&nbsp;</div><div><span class="EC_970305901-30052008"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff">I figured something was up with the 1 worder... and don't feel bad, you're not the only one that's smoked and electric.</font></span></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><font size="2">Regards,<br>Jason<br><a href="http://www.jasonshulman.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.jasonshulman.com</a><br><a href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.shulmanaviation.com</a><br><a href="http://www.composite-arf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.composite-arf.com<br></a></font></div><blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px; "><blockquote class="EC_replbq" style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; "></blockquote></blockquote></div></span></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div id="EC_AOLMsgPart_4_b87cf9f8-3134-47ad-8e21-22913d63db05" style="font-size: 12px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><pre style="font-size: 9pt; "><tt>_______________________________________________  NSRCA-discussion mailing list  <a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>  <a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a>  </tt></pre></div>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