Ya know, I think we should also discuss adopting the FAI rules for scoring takeoff and landings in the AMA classes . . .<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 7:11 AM, <<a href="mailto:Snaproll4@aol.com">Snaproll4@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>I agree with Lance on both points. Jim is a great guy who
passionately supports pattern and would never come down hard on anyone.
The similarities between NSRCA and public radio are obvious. This list is
not free. There is no advertising and it is supported by the dues and
volunteerism of the members.</div>
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<div>In order to take the heat off of Jim, I 'm going to start a thread on the
definition of a snap roll or mandatory class advancement.</div>
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<div>Steve Miller #673</div>
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<div>In a message dated 5/15/2008 10:13:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
<a href="mailto:patterndude@tx.rr.com" target="_blank">patterndude@tx.rr.com</a> writes:</div>
<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid blue; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;"><font style="background-color: transparent;" color="#000000" face="Arial" size="2">I have
to put in my small $.02 for anyone still following this thread. <br>Having
only an impression of a person by email is limited and we all bear <br>this
risk when we make statements. Jim Quinn, in person, is a super
<br>friendly, gracious nice guy. He came to the Nats as an observer and
became <br>the daily reporter and did a great job. His work as an
officer is for all <br>our benefit. I'm sure he is apalled at the larger
response that his <br>comments received and would reword them if he
could. I haven't talked to <br>Jim about this but back when I was an
officer he and I chatted often. I <br>know he is simply promoting
membership and reminding people of the <br>similarities between this and
public radio. Our organization needs to pay <br>its way so if you are
getting value from the "list" or attending contests or <br>whatever, then for
the price of a throttle servo you can do your part to <br>support the
organization.<br><br>I agree the way he did it this one time was not ideal,but
since most people <br>don't know Jim I thought someone had to make a plea to
all to let this go. <br>He's too modest to become defensive
himself.<br><br>--Lance<br>Former VP<br><br>----- Original Message -----
<br>From: "Daniel McLalin" <<a href="mailto:dmclalin@gmail.com" target="_blank">dmclalin@gmail.com</a>><br>To: "General pattern
discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>Sent: Wednesday, May
14, 2008 9:50 AM<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Let us bicker about who
can use the list<br><br><br>> You must all realize that there are a lot of
people following these<br>> emails who have not ever asked a question or
comment AND who are not<br>> NSRCA members. I am an example of
this. I have been on the e-mail<br>> mailing list for over 2 years
and have used all of your valuable<br>> information to educate myself. I am
not a member of NSRCA because I am<br>> still learning to fly and am not
ready to participate in any pattern<br>> competitions. I am an AMA
member.<br>><br>> I have met several of you at pattern competitions and
have always been<br>> impressed on how friendly and anxious you are at
helping us newbees<br>> and welcoming our interest in not just pattern but
RC itself.<br>><br>> This is the first time I have ever come across a
negative comment from<br>> a member to a non-member (that wasn't in jest -
of course). I was<br>> surprised for sure but not put off by Jim Quinn's
response to Colin.<br>><br>> So I repeat, many people read your
comments. Saying something in text<br>> stays out there for a very
long time.<br>><br>> My 2 cents.<br>><br>> Dan
McLalin<br>><br>> On 5/13/08, Ron Van Putte <<a href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net" target="_blank">vanputte@cox.net</a>>
wrote:<br>>> John is correct. For MANY years, AMA ran the R/C
Aerobatics events<br>>> (often badly). When NSRCA petitioned to
run our events, AMA agreed<br>>> reluctantly. However after the
first couple of Nats, AMA got used to<br>>> it and encouraged other SIGs
to run their events. Now I don't think<br>>> any events are run by
AMA personnel. However, it should be<br>>> recognized that the
Nats are an AMA event and we just administer our<br>>> events in
accordance with AMA rules.<br>>><br>>> Ron Van
Putte<br>>><br>>> On May 13, 2008, at 3:07 PM, John Ferrell
wrote:<br>>><br>>> > The Nats are not an NSRCA event. The Nats
are an AMA event.<br>>> > I expect most of those who work so hard at
the Nats are members of<br>>> > both AMA<br>>> > and NSRCA
it is important that we not lose track of who pays what<br>>> > bills
and<br>>> > who provides what resources...<br>>>
><br>>> > John Ferrell W8CCW<br>>>
><br>>> > "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for
good men to do<br>>> > nothing." -- Edmund Burke<br>>> >
<a href="http://DixieNC.US" target="_blank">http://DixieNC.US</a><br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> >> I
think it would be a shame if the NSRCA got frustrated and locked<br>>>
>> out<br>>> >> foreigners from the US Nats, the K-Factor,
the NSRCA email list etc.<br>>> >> All of us directly and
indirectly benefit from this organization<br>>> >> and
we<br>>> >> should support if our situations allow.<br>>>
>><br>>> >> So I encourage all the Canadians reading this
list who are not<br>>> >> members<br>>> >> to support
the NSRCA.<br>>> >><br>>> >> Chad<br>>>
><br>>> ><br>>> >
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