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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Not to drag this on, Jim, but, I don't recall
any post that I would consider having taken the "tough-guy"
approach...maybe you could refresh my memory on this scenario...unless of course
you are speaking in the "broad spectrum" and not necessarily referencing this
particular conversation.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ken</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jim.woodward@baesystems.com
href="mailto:jim.woodward@baesystems.com">Woodward, Jim</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:05 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Let us
bicker about who can use the list</DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">This list is about the friendliest regarding R/C on
the net. RCU, FG, and email lists don’t always read well. There
seem to be a lot of statements “online” that nobody would EVER say if we were
all sitting at a round table having a discussion. The “tough-guy” always
seems to come out online for some reason, rather than the “round-table” type
of discussion we would all have if sitting in person. Think &
type round-table, for the most part.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Jim</SPAN></FONT></ST1:PERSONNAME>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>brian young<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:52
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <ST1:PERSONNAME
w:st="on">General pattern discussion</ST1:PERSONNAME><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Let us
bicker about who can use the list</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Email intention is easily misread and always has to be
taken with a grain of salt....and maybe tequila and
lime. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Dave
<DaveL322@comcast.net></SPAN></I></B>
wrote:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I personally know
<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">Jim</ST1:PERSONNAME>, and have for a number of
years. Â I point this out, because it may mean I have a
bias.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Couple questions I
have –<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">- Is it possible
<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">Jim</ST1:PERSONNAME> was simply asking a question,
and is legitimately puzzled as to why someone why someone who is active on
and benefiting from the list would not support the organization that
sponsors the list?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">- Does
<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">Jim</ST1:PERSONNAME> have a history of positive
contributions to the organization and this
list?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’d like to think
that most non-NSRCA members that become involved on this list for any length
of time would eventually join NSRCA (as some have done), but it is an open
list (and I like it that way), so there is no requirement to do
so.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I read
<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">Jim</ST1:PERSONNAME>’s query as short, direct,
and free of sugar coating. I didn’t find it offensive, but I can
see how it could be interpreted that way. Knowing <ST1:PERSONNAME
w:st="on">Jim</ST1:PERSONNAME>, I sincerely think he is puzzled as to why
someone would not support a group that is providing benefit. For
those that don’t know <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">Jim</ST1:PERSONNAME>, and
care to know what kind of person he is, I’ve never seen him without a
smile on his face, I’ve never seen him fail to help people, and he is
definitely passionate about pattern. Â For those that think
<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">Jim</ST1:PERSONNAME>’s post was offensive,
perhaps maybe <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">Jim</ST1:PERSONNAME> deserves a
little benefit of doubt – just my
opinion.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Regards,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dave
Lockhart<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Pete Cosky<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, May 12, 2008 11:24
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <ST1:PERSONNAME
w:st="on">General pattern discussion</ST1:PERSONNAME><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Let us
bicker about who can use the list</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jeremy,</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Some of us just have off days
and other like to debate ( I personally fall into both categories ) but I
think you will find that pattern people are among the most helpful. That has
been my experience at any rate with VERY FEW exceptions.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If you need any help with your
vacuum setup don't hesitate to contact me directly. I have built a few of
them in the past and have not used weights on anything in the last 5 years.
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message -----
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=lagrue@hotmail.com href="mailto:lagrue@hotmail.com">JEREMY CHINN</A>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern
discussion</A> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Monday, May 12, 2008 11:12 PM<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Let us bicker about who can use the
list<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on"><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Jim</SPAN></FONT></ST1:PERSONNAME><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> et
al, as a guy who is terribly interested in flying pattern this season and
becoming a member of the NSRCA, your idea and attitude initially
turns me off to the organization. <BR> <BR>However, I'll temper that
idea or feeling with the fact that every good organization will have
people who feel the way or act as you have. IE, my hope and belief is
that not everyone thinks as you do. <BR> <BR>I've managed to be part
of this hobby for over 25 years and always subscribed to the idea that
sharing knowledge gets me more in return than I could ever offer and often
helps me make great new friends and as an extension of that thought, an
organization can benefit in the same way - new members, new enthusiasm are
gotten by free sharing of information and
ideas.<BR> <BR>FWIW, one other thought to consider- there are
always many more listening/lurking than speaking/typing. So how many
people might you have run off now? Many won't tell you about it,
they'll just go. <BR> <BR>Time to get back to my shop and finish
tuning up my new vacuum bagging system so I can bag my new
pattern plane wings next week. <BR> <BR>Sincerely, a non-NSRCA member
who subscribes to and learns from this list. <BR> <BR>Jeremy
Chinn<BR><BR><BR> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:
pcosky@comcast.net<BR>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Date: Mon,
12 May 2008 22:37:24 -0400<BR>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Let us bicker
about who can use the list<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Then make the list members
only if you would rather close the gates instead of build bridges. If one
wanted to make sure only members were able to glean any knowledge from the
NSRCA I guess we shouldn't hand out KFs to people who are not members
nor even have a booth at a show like <U1:CITY u2:st="on"><U1:PLACE
u2:st="on"><ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE
w:st="on">Toledo</U1:PLACE></U1:CITY></ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY>.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I'm with Dowayne and
Ken.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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populace on this list that made me decide to join. After all you do not
have to be an NSRCA member to fly in a pattern meet. </SPAN></FONT><FONT
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title=patternrules@yahoo.com href="mailto:patternrules@yahoo.com">Steven
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Starters for YS in <U1:COUNTRY-REGION
u2:st="on"><U1:PLACE u2:st="on"><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE
w:st="on">Canada</U1:PLACE></U1:COUNTRY-REGION></ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> I have to disagree I
have seen this list been abrused many times by people that have never
been NASRCA members. I tyhink it's time someone does watch the list. My
hats off to <ST1:PERSONNAME
w:st="on">Jim</ST1:PERSONNAME>.<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">DoWayne Gould <<A
href="mailto:iflyrc24@gmail.com">iflyrc24@gmail.com</A>></SPAN></I></B>
wrote: <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">I have to agree Ken. I
don’t understand the strong arm tactics. Is this the way to get
new members to join the NSRCA? I don’t think a public brow
beating is good for anyone. If it keeps up you can count me out next
year at renewal time. I don’t agree with it, I don’t care
to have it done to me and I don’t like seeing anyone else getting
it!</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Ken
Thompson<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday,
May 12, 2008 7:02 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <U1:PERSONNAME
u2:st="on">jaqfly@prodigy.net</U1:PERSONNAME>; <ST1:PERSONNAME
w:st="on">General pattern discussion</ST1:PERSONNAME><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Starters for YS in <U1:COUNTRY-REGION u2:st="on"><U1:PLACE
u2:st="on"><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE
w:st="on">Canada</U1:PLACE></U1:COUNTRY-REGION></ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">That's kinda' harsh isn't it
<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">Jim</ST1:PERSONNAME>?</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<A title=jaqfly@prodigy.net href="mailto:jaqfly@prodigy.net">Jim
Quinn</A> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<A title=cchariandy@yahoo.ca
href="mailto:cchariandy@yahoo.ca">cchariandy@yahoo.ca</A> ; <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern
discussion</A> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
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Monday, May 12, 2008 11:25 AM</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Starters for YS in <U1:COUNTRY-REGION
u2:st="on"><U1:PLACE u2:st="on"><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION
w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE
w:st="on">Canada</U1:PLACE></U1:COUNTRY-REGION></ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION></SPAN></FONT><FONT
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Colin, Why do you keep coming to us (NSRCA)
for help but refuse to join our membership? It makes no sense to
me.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Jim</SPAN></FONT></ST1:PERSONNAME>
Quinn<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">colin chariandy <<A
href="mailto:cchariandy@yahoo.ca">cchariandy@yahoo.ca</A>></SPAN></I></B>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Colin.<BR><BR>--- On <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Mon, 5/12/08, Mark Atwood <I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><<A
href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</A>></SPAN></I></SPAN></B>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">From: Mark Atwood <<A
href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</A>><BR>Subject:
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Starters for YS in <U1:COUNTRY-REGION
u2:st="on"><U1:PLACE u2:st="on"><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION
w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE
w:st="on">Canada</U1:PLACE></U1:COUNTRY-REGION></ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION><BR>To:
<A
href="mailto:cchariandy@yahoo.ca">cchariandy@yahoo.ca</A>,
"<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">General pattern
discussion</ST1:PERSONNAME>"
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Received:
Monday, May 12, 2008, 9:50
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">I’ve
been using the Kavan for years. No problems.
It’s currently starting my 1.60 and
1.70DZ’s
Can’t comment on the
others, as to whether they are better or not, but the Kavan
will work just fine.<BR><BR>-Mark<BR><BR><BR>On 5/12/08 9:39
AM, "colin chariandy" <cchariandy@yahoo.ca>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Hi all I
tried to start my DZ with a regular, non-geared 12V Sullivan
starter yesterday...no joy. I know guys are running
geared staters from B&P and PAM, but I can't find
starters like those in <U1:COUNTRY-REGION
u2:st="on"><U1:PLACE u2:st="on"><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION
w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE
w:st="on">Canada</U1:PLACE></U1:COUNTRY-REGION></ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION>.
My options at the LHS are KAVAN and Sullivan Dynatron.
The KAVAN is really compact...but can it turn over a
170? And the Dynatron....I guess I can use it in the weight
room after flying. Can you advise which is more
commonly used and functions better? Of course if there
are other options the Canadians can chime in. Thanks
much Colin.
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