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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I can see the argument on both sides…Let
me start by saying IMHO Jim intended no harm, but is very passionate about his
role and very aggressive in trying to increase membership…As for the e-mail
posting from Jim, he will need to address this with Colin.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>What I do disapprove of is the bantering
and bashing from non-<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA</st1:PersonName> folks in
the past, which Steve may be referring to.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I for one watched behind the scenes and
read some tough e-mails and never posted for a year or so. After two years, I
joined the <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA</st1:PersonName>…Personally I
welcome all who maybe interested in the wealth of info shared <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">NSRCA</st1:PersonName> Members or not…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Steven Maxwell<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 12, 2008 8:51 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">NSRCA</st1:PersonName>-discussion] Starters for YS in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Canada</st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> I have to disagree I have seen this list been abrused many times
by people that have never been NASRCA members. I tyhink it's time someone does
watch the list. My hats off to Jim.<br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>DoWayne Gould
<iflyrc24@gmail.com></span></i></b> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>I have to agree Ken. I don’t understand the strong arm
tactics. Is this the way to get new members to join the <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA</st1:PersonName>?
I don’t think a public brow beating is good for anyone. If it keeps up you
can count me out next year at renewal time. I don’t agree with it, I don’t
care to have it done to me and I don’t like seeing anyone else getting it!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ken Thompson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 12, 2008 7:02 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <u1:PersonName u2:st="on">jaqfly@prodigy.net</u1:PersonName>;
General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">NSRCA</st1:PersonName>-discussion] Starters for YS in <u1:country-region u2:st="on"><u1:place u2:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Canada</u1:place></u1:country-region></st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>That's kinda' harsh isn't it Jim?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:jaqfly@prodigy.net" title="jaqfly@prodigy.net">Jim Quinn</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:cchariandy@yahoo.ca" title="cchariandy@yahoo.ca">cchariandy@yahoo.ca</a>
; <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Monday, May 12,
2008 11:25 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: [<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">NSRCA</st1:PersonName>-discussion] Starters for YS in <u1:country-region u2:st="on"><u1:place u2:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Canada</u1:place></u1:country-region></st1:place></st1:country-region><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Colin, Why do you keep coming to us (<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA</st1:PersonName>)
for help but refuse to join our membership? It makes no sense to me.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'>Jim Quinn<br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>colin chariandy <<a
href="mailto:cchariandy@yahoo.ca">cchariandy@yahoo.ca</a>></span></i></b>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Will the KAVAN in 12V gell cell work?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Colin.<br>
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--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Mon, 5/12/08, Mark Atwood <i><span
style='font-style:italic'><<a href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</a>></span></i></span></b>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>From: Mark Atwood <<a
href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA</st1:PersonName>-discussion]
Starters for YS in <u1:country-region u2:st="on"><u1:place u2:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Canada</u1:place></u1:country-region></st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
To: <a href="mailto:cchariandy@yahoo.ca">cchariandy@yahoo.ca</a>,
"General pattern discussion"
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
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font-family:Calibri'>I’ve been using the Kavan for years. No
problems. It’s currently starting my 1.60 and 1.70DZ’s Can’t
comment on the others, as to whether they are better or not, but the Kavan
will work just fine.<br>
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-Mark<br>
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On 5/12/08 9:39 AM, "colin chariandy" <cchariandy@yahoo.ca>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Hi all I tried to start my DZ with a regular,
non-geared 12V Sullivan starter yesterday...no joy. I know guys are
running geared staters from B&P and PAM, but I can't find starters like
those in <u1:country-region u2:st="on"><u1:place u2:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Canada</u1:place></u1:country-region></st1:place></st1:country-region>.
My options at the LHS are KAVAN and Sullivan Dynatron. The KAVAN
is really compact...but can it turn over a 170? And the Dynatron....I guess I
can use it in the weight room after flying. Can you advise which is
more commonly used and functions better? Of course if there are other
options the Canadians can chime in. Thanks much Colin. <br>
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