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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm in agreement with DoWayne...sorry Steve...This
list has always been a public forum, you don't have to be a member of the NSRCA
to subscribe.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've been a member since I started flying Pattern,
2001, I think, and the first time I didn't renew on time was last year.
Money was tight, and paying other bills seemed a lot more important than paying
my dues with the NSRCA. I got an email asking when I was going to renew,
not an issue, I explained my situation and was given a reprieve, but I saw where
others were called out on the list for not having renewed as of yet. My
opinion...calling someone out for not having renewed yet is a "hard sell tactic"
which could very well lead to the "old school attitude" in which Pattern
personnel are considered "uppity"...I thought we wanted to get away from that
situation...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You want someone to renew, send them a private
email...you don't try to embarass them into renewing by calling them out in
public.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If someone want to slam me for my putting this
on the list, so be it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ken</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=patternrules@yahoo.com href="mailto:patternrules@yahoo.com">Steven
Maxwell</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 12, 2008 8:50 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Starters
for YS in Canada</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV> I have to disagree I have seen this list been abrused
many times by people that have never been NASRCA members. I tyhink it's time
someone does watch the list. My hats off to Jim.<BR><BR><B><I>DoWayne Gould
<<A href="mailto:iflyrc24@gmail.com">iflyrc24@gmail.com</A>></I></B>
wrote:
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">I have to agree Ken. I don’t
understand the strong arm tactics. Is this the way to get new members to
join the NSRCA? I don’t think a public brow beating is good for anyone. If
it keeps up you can count me out next year at renewal time. I don’t agree
with it, I don’t care to have it done to me and I don’t like seeing
anyone else getting it!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Dowayne<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Ken Thompson<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, May 12, 2008 7:02
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">jaqfly@prodigy.net</st1:PersonName>; General pattern
discussion<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Starters for YS in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Canada</st1:place></st1:country-region></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">That's kinda' harsh isn't it
Jim?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></DIV></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=jaqfly@prodigy.net href="mailto:jaqfly@prodigy.net">Jim Quinn</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=cchariandy@yahoo.ca
href="mailto:cchariandy@yahoo.ca">cchariandy@yahoo.ca</A> ; <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern
discussion</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Monday, May 12, 2008 11:25 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Starters for YS in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Canada</st1:place></st1:country-region><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Colin, Why do you keep coming to us (NSRCA) for
help but refuse to join our membership? It makes no sense to
me.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Jim Quinn<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">colin chariandy <<A
href="mailto:cchariandy@yahoo.ca">cchariandy@yahoo.ca</A>></SPAN></I></B>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Will the KAVAN in 12V gell cell
work?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Colin.<BR><BR>--- On <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Mon, 5/12/08, Mark Atwood <I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><<A
href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</A>></SPAN></I></SPAN></B>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">From: Mark Atwood <<A
href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</A>><BR>Subject:
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Starters for YS in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Canada</st1:place></st1:country-region><BR>To: <A
href="mailto:cchariandy@yahoo.ca">cchariandy@yahoo.ca</A>,
"General pattern discussion"
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Received: Monday,
May 12, 2008, 9:50 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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face=Calibri size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">I’ve been
using the Kavan for years. No problems. It’s
currently starting my 1.60 and 1.70DZ’s
Can’t comment on the others, as to
whether they are better or not, but the Kavan will work just
fine.<BR><BR>-Mark<BR><BR><BR>On 5/12/08 9:39 AM, "colin
chariandy" <cchariandy@yahoo.ca>
wrote:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Hi all I
tried to start my DZ with a regular, non-geared 12V Sullivan
starter yesterday...no joy. I know guys are running geared
staters from B&P and PAM, but I can't find starters like
those in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Canada</st1:place></st1:country-region>. My
options at the LHS are KAVAN and Sullivan Dynatron. The
KAVAN is really compact...but can it turn over a 170? And the
Dynatron....I guess I can use it in the weight room after
flying. Can you advise which is more commonly used and
functions better? Of course if there are other options the
Canadians can chime in. Thanks much Colin.
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