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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> [mailto:</span></font><font
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size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>krishlan fitzsimmons<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:57
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>General pattern
discussion</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Let us bicker about who can use the list</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>I think I've been drinking whiskey while trimming
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>vicenterc@comcast.net</span></i></b>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>I prefer whiskey.... The final effect on
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Email intention is easily misread and always has to be
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I personally know Jim,
and have for a number of years. Â I point this out, because it may mean I
have a bias.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- Is it possible Jim was
simply asking a question, and is legitimately puzzled as to why someone why
someone who is active on and benefiting from the list would not support the
organization that sponsors the list?</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- Does Jim have a history
of positive contributions to the organization and this list?</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’d like to
think that most non-NSRCA members that become involved on this list for any
length of time would eventually join NSRCA (as some have done), but it is an
open list (and I like it that way), so there is no requirement to do so.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I read
Jim’s query as short, direct, and free of sugar coating. I
didn’t find it offensive, but I can see how it could be
interpreted that way. Knowing Jim, I sincerely think he is puzzled as to
why someone would not support a group that is providing benefit. For
those that don’t know Jim, and care to know what kind of person
he is, I’ve never seen him without a smile on his face,
I’ve never seen him fail to help people, and he is definitely
passionate about pattern.  For those that think Jim’s post was
offensive, perhaps maybe Jim deserves a little benefit of doubt –
just my opinion.</span></font></p>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Pete Cosky<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 12, 2008 11:24
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Let us bicker about who can use the list</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Some of us just have off days and
other like to debate ( I personally fall into both categories ) but I think you
will find that pattern people are among the most helpful. That has been my
experience at any rate with VERY FEW exceptions.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If you need any help with your
vacuum setup don't hesitate to contact me directly. I have built a few of them
in the past and have not used weights on anything in the last 5 years. </span></font></p>
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size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:lagrue@hotmail.com" title="lagrue@hotmail.com">JEREMY CHINN</a> </span></font></p>
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size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
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12, 2008 11:12 PM</span></font></p>
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[NSRCA-discussion] Let us bicker about who can use the list</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Jim et al, as a guy who is terribly
interested in flying pattern this season and becoming a member of the NSRCA,
your idea and attitude initially turns me off to the organization. <br>
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However, I'll temper that idea or feeling with the fact that every good
organization will have people who feel the way or act as you have. IE, my hope
and belief is that not everyone thinks as you do. <br>
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I've managed to be part of this hobby for over 25 years and always subscribed
to the idea that sharing knowledge gets me more in return than I could ever
offer and often helps me make great new friends and as an extension of that
thought, an organization can benefit in the same way - new members, new
enthusiasm are gotten by free sharing of information and ideas.<br>
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FWIW, one other thought to consider- there are always many more
listening/lurking than spe aking/ typing. So how many people might you
have run off now? Many won't tell you about it, they'll just go. <br>
<br>
Time to get back to my shop and finish tuning up my new vacuum bagging
system so I can bag my new pattern plane wings next week. <br>
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Sincerely, a non-NSRCA member who subscribes to and learns from this list. <br>
<br>
Jeremy Chinn<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>From: pcosky@comcast.net<br>
To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 22:37:24 -0400<br>
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Let us bicker about who can use the list</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Then make the list members only if
you would rather close the gates instead of build bridges. If one wanted to
make sure only members were able to glean any knowledge from the NSRCA
I guess we shouldn't hand out KFs to people who are not members nor even
have a booth at a show like <u1:City u2:st="on"><u1:place u2:st="on">Toledo</u1:place></u1:City>.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>FYI - I subscribed to the list
before I became a member and it was the general helpfulness of the general
populace on this list that made me decide to join. After all you do not have to
be an NSRCA member to fly in a pattern meet. </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Can we now get back to discussing
the hobby we all enjoy instead of making this an US and THEM debate?</span></font></p>
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href="mailto:patternrules@yahoo.com" title="patternrules@yahoo.com">Steven
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href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> </span></font></p>
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[NSRCA-discussion] Starters for YS in <u1:country-region u2:st="on"><u1:place u2:st="on">Canada</u1:place></u1:country-region></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> I have to disagree I have
seen this list been abrused many times by people that have never been NASRCA
members. I tyhink it's time someone does watch the list. My hats off to Jim.<br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>DoWayne Gould <<a
href="mailto:iflyrc24@gmail.com">iflyrc24@gmail.com</a>></span></i></b>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>I have to agree Ken. I
don’t understand the strong arm tactics. Is this the way to
get new members to join the NSRCA? I don’t think a public
brow beating is good for anyone. If it keeps up you can count me out next year
at renewal time. I don’t agree with it, I
don’t care to have it done to me and I
don’t like seeing anyone else getting it!</span></font></p>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ken Thompson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 12, 2008 7:02 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <u1:PersonName u2:st="on">jaqfly@prodigy.net</u1:PersonName>;
General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Starters for YS in <u1:country-region u2:st="on"><u1:place u2:st="on">Canada</u1:place></u1:country-region></span></font></p>
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href="mailto:cchariandy@yahoo.ca" title="cchariandy@yahoo.ca">cchariandy@yahoo.ca</a>
; <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Colin, Why do you keep coming to us (NSRCA) for help
but refuse to join our membership? It makes no sense to me.</span></font></p>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>colin chariandy <<a
href="mailto:cchariandy@yahoo.ca">cchariandy@yahoo.ca</a>></span></i></b>
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--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Mon, 5/12/08, Mark Atwood <i><span
style='font-style:italic'><<a href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</a>></span></i></span></b>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>From: Mark Atwood <<a
href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Starters for YS in <u1:country-region u2:st="on"><u1:place u2:st="on">Canada</u1:place></u1:country-region><br>
To: <a href="mailto:cchariandy@yahoo.ca">cchariandy@yahoo.ca</a>,
"General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
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font-family:Calibri'>I’ve been
using the Kavan for years. No problems.
It’s currently starting my
1.60 and 1.70DZ’s Can’t
comment on the others, as to whether they are better or not, but the Kavan
will work just fine.<br>
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-Mark<br>
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On 5/12/08 9:39 AM, "colin chariandy" <cchariandy@yahoo.ca>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Hi all I tried to start my DZ with a regular,
non-geared 12V Sullivan starter yesterday...no joy. I know guys are
running geared staters from B&P and PAM, but I can't find starters like
those in <u1:country-region u2:st="on"><u1:place u2:st="on">Canada</u1:place></u1:country-region>.
My options at the LHS are KAVAN and Sullivan Dynatron. The KAVAN
is really compact...but can it turn over a 170? And the Dynatron....I guess I
can use it in the weight room after flying. Can you advise which is
more commonly used and functions better? Of course if there are other
options the Canadians can chime in. Thanks much Colin.
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Let us bicker about who can use the list<br>
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 12:58:36 +0000<br>
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