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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Your welcome.&nbsp; Dwayne</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>James Oddino<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, May 11, 2008 7:15 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Rudder pull-pull</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>I saw Ralph Sat. morning and mentioned the switch
harness. &nbsp;He said he didn't know it existed. &nbsp;I had to run off to
take the grandson to his ball game so I never did close the deal with him but I
think he understands the benefits. &nbsp;Thanks for the support.</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>On May 9, 2008, at 12:46 PM, Dwayne Brown wrote:</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jim, I see that you flew
this morning or last night with my friend<span class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Ralph
DePalma.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve been attempting to get him to buy one of your switches in
that he now uses your regulator. &nbsp;Dwayne in Amarillo</span></font></p>

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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
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class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><span
class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>[<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<span
class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></span></b>James Oddino<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Friday, May 09, 2008 11:46 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rudder
pull-pull</span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>If the arm on
the servo and the control horn on the rudder are equal lengths the system is
linear. &nbsp;One degree of servo change results in one degree in rudder change
at all points in the travel from neutral to full throw. &nbsp;We don't care how
far fore and aft the push rod or cables move to get these results.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>On May 9,
2008, at 6:32 AM, Mark Atwood wrote:</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Better. But let&#8217;s not get gaudy about it...lol<br>
<br>
The reality is the throw is just more linear. &nbsp;With an arm, even though
the attachment point of the cable to the arm still moves in a circular fashion
(same as the wheel), the cable is not following the arc. &nbsp;So the angle of
the cable is changing, and the relative throw is decreasing as the arm is
deflecting.<br>
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Can you tell??? &nbsp;Well, it&#8217;s effectively giving you opposite expo (the arm
is). &nbsp;&nbsp;Meaning the throw is more sensitive around neutral. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;When
we used Analog servos...this was actually a good thing. &nbsp;The amount of
blow back on our barn door rudders made the first bit of movement somewhat
ineffective. &nbsp;But now with the digital servos which operate at full torque
even near center, my guess is that people running an arm MIGHT...just MIGHT use
slightly more expo on their rudder to offset the mechanical negative expo.
&nbsp;That&#8217;s if they really notice it.<br>
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I just go for the bling. :)<br>
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-M<br>
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<br>
On 5/9/08 9:24 AM, &quot;chris moon&quot; &lt;<a
href="mailto:cjm767driver@hotmail.com">cjm767driver@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>I was going to put real diamonds around the
edge of the wheel and a neon light below it...does that count?<br>
<br>
<br>
Mark Atwood wrote:<span class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></span></font></p>

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.5in'><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rudder pull-pull<span
class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:black'>You have a problem with Bling??? Go fly Pylon...you&#8217;re not worthy
of Pattern.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
:) :) :)<br>
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&nbsp;<br>
On 5/9/08 9:13 AM, &quot;chris moon&quot; &nbsp;wrote:<br>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>Can
someone explain the benefits (real or otherwise) of the pull-pull<span
class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>
wheel type rudder servo arm vs. a regular servo arm? Is there some real<span
class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>
benefit, or is it bling?<br>
Thanks<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Chris<br>
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