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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>What about Old Fart points? Are you
kiddies worried?</span></font></p>
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<p><b><i><font size=4 color=navy face="Brush Script MT"><span style='font-size:
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color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Marshall</span></font></i></b><font
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> [mailto:</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>JShulman<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, April 30, 2008
12:22 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>General pattern
discussion</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Rules change proposal</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Wow, you mean I still get
kiddie points.... best news all day...lol</span></font></p>
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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Regards,<br>
Jason<br>
www.jasonshulman.com<br>
www.shulmanaviation.com<br>
www.composite-arf.com</span></font> </p>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>rcmaster199@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, April 30, 2008
12:14 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Rules change proposal</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Ohhhhh!!!!!!!!!!</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Do you mean we should stop giving Jason and Andrew
kiddie points???? </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte@cox.net><br>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Sent: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 9:13 am<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules change proposal</span></font></p>
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style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>You were kidding? I wasn't kidding about getting special scoring bonuses for age and (lack of) height. Or was I? Ron VP On Apr 30, 2008, at 6:01 AM, John Konneker wrote: > Matt, > You know I'm just kidding right? > :-) > JLK > > > From: <a
href="mailto:mjfrederick@cox.net">mjfrederick@cox.net</a> > To: <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a> > Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:40:55 -0500 > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules change proposal > > I don't see the necessity for such a proposal... All the people you > are competing with in your region (hence breaking the NSRCA up into > districts) are dealing with the same problem. It would be a net > </span></font></tt></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> zero change in the results, just allowing you to feel better about > yourself because you got better scores... to quote the Godfather... > "After all, we are not communists..." While we're at it let's just > change the name of the sport to Soccer... > > Matt > > Yeah, I know I'm gonna ruffle some feathers with the soccer > remark... get over it... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Konneker > To: General pattern discussion > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 4:34 PM > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules change proposal > > Anthony, > Please don't think of it as a "handicap". > Think of it as a well...let's call it what it is. > A "Correction Factor". > I can see this process causing a lot of changes. > How 'bout the monthly magazine's name becomming "The NSRCA > Correction Factor"?!? > This is only the tip of the iceberg (get it...iceberg...lol) > JLK > > ></span></font></tt></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> ; Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:19:51 -0700 > From: <a
href="mailto:aabdu@sbcglobal.net">aabdu@sbcglobal.net</a> > To: <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules change proposal > > John, > You are a fricking genius. As a snow belt sufferer living less than > 90 miles from Buffalo New York, I could use the "handicap" to > adjust for our nearly 8 month long winter and subsequent RC > inactivity. > > Tim Wortkoetter <<a
href="mailto:twortkoetter@yahoo.com">twortkoetter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote: > I think it should also apply to people who have two kids under the > age of 3. > > Tim Wortkoetter > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: John Konneker <<a
href="mailto:jlkonn@hotmail.com">jlkonn@hotmail.com</a>> > To: Discussion List <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrc</a></span></font></tt></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span class=MsoHyperlink><u><font
size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"> a.org</a></span></font></u></span><tt><font
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='color:black'>> > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:56:43 PM > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules change proposal > > I have been impressed by the spirit of fair play and sportsmanship > in the NSRCA since returning to pattern. > I feel though that there has been an oversight in the rules that I > think now could be corrected. > I just got in from flying my Focus II for the first time since last > October. > It (I) was terrible! The long winter layoffs here in the northern > climes imposes a real hardship on pattern pilots living here. > To be fair I would like to propose an adjustment to the maneuver k- > factors based on the annual mean temperature and > extreme lows (I want to leave out highs) of where one lives. > For example my lowest k-factor would be 10 for landing and takeoff > and then go up from there according to degree of difficulty of > maneuver. In some cases I can see 20+ easily. ></span></font></tt></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> Folks like Derek, Ron Davies, Chris Fitzsimmons living in > California would have highest k-factors of 1...who knows...maybe > even fractional or minus. These k-factors would be assigned by > pilot and voted on only by members that have at least 24" of snow > each year. > What do you all think? > I want to be fair. > JLK > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. > Try it now._______________________________________________ > NSRCA-discussion mailing list > <a
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