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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle20><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Being a
fair weather flier living in snow country with multiple physical and questionable
mental disorders I certainly could use some help. Sounds like a refined handicap
system could result in everyone getting 1000 normalized points leaving only
judging discrepancies to separate contestants. Interesting. If we just use
performance projection based on historical averages we could just award the
placement trophies without having to judge. Is it Bud time yet.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle20><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jim Hiller
<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>rcmaster199@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, April 30, 2008
9:14 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Rules change proposal</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Ohhhhh!!!!!!!!!!</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Do you mean
we should stop giving Jason and Andrew kiddie points???? </span></font><font
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>MattK<span
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte@cox.net><br>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Sent: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 9:13 am<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules change proposal</span></font><font
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<div id="AOLMsgPart_0_622203fb-f4a1-4dcb-80cc-12e0472948ce">You were kidding?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I wasn't kidding about getting special scoring<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>bonuses for age and (lack of) height.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Or was I?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Ron VP<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>On Apr 30, 2008, at 6:01 AM, John Konneker wrote:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> Matt,<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> You know I'm just kidding right?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> :-)<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> JLK<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> From: <a
href="mailto:mjfrederick@cox.net">mjfrederick@cox.net</a><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> To: <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:40:55 -0500<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules change proposal<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> I don't see the necessity for such a proposal... All the people you<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> are competing with in your region (hence breaking the NSRCA up into<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> districts) are dealing with the same problem. It would be a net<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></tt></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>zero change in the results, just allowing you to feel better about<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> yourself because you got better scores... to quote the Godfather...<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> "After all, we are not communists..." While we're at it let's just<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> change the name of the sport to Soccer...<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> Matt<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> Yeah, I know I'm gonna ruffle some feathers with the soccer<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> remark... get over it...<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> ----- Original Message -----<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> From: John Konneker<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> To: General pattern discussion<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 4:34 PM<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules change proposal<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> Anthony,<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> Please don't think of it as a "handicap".<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> Think of it as a well...let's call it what it is.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> A "Correction Factor".<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> I can see this process causing a lot of changes.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> How 'bout the monthly magazine's name becomming "The NSRCA<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> Correction Factor"?!?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> This is only the tip of the iceberg (get it...iceberg...lol)<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> JLK<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>><o:p></o:p></span></font></tt></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> ; Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:19:51 -0700<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> From: <a
href="mailto:aabdu@sbcglobal.net">aabdu@sbcglobal.net</a><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> To: <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules change proposal<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> John,<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> You are a fricking genius. As a snow belt sufferer living less than<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> 90 miles from Buffalo New York, I could use the "handicap" to<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> adjust for our nearly 8 month long winter and subsequent RC<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> inactivity.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> Tim Wortkoetter <<a
href="mailto:twortkoetter@yahoo.com">twortkoetter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> I think it should also apply to people who have two kids under the<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> age of 3.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> Tim Wortkoetter<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> ----- Original Message ----<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> From: John Konneker <<a
href="mailto:jlkonn@hotmail.com">jlkonn@hotmail.com</a>><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> To: Discussion List <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrc<o:p></o:p></a></span></font></tt></pre><pre
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style='font-size:10.0pt'> a.org</span></font></a><tt><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:56:43 PM<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules change proposal<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> I have been impressed by the spirit of fair play and sportsmanship<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> in the NSRCA since returning to pattern.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> I feel though that there has been an oversight in the rules that I<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> think now could be corrected.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> I just got in from flying my Focus II for the first time since last<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> October.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> It (I) was terrible!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>The long winter layoffs here in the northern<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> climes imposes a real hardship on pattern pilots living here.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> To be fair I would like to propose an adjustment to the maneuver k-<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> factors based on the annual mean temperature and<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> extreme lows (I want to leave out highs) of where one lives.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> For example my lowest k-factor would be 10 for landing and takeoff<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> and then go up from there according to degree of difficulty of<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> maneuver.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>In some cases I can see 20+ easily.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>><o:p></o:p></span></font></tt></pre><pre
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face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Folks like Derek, Ron Davies, Chris Fitzsimmons living in<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> California would have highest k-factors of 1...who knows...maybe<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> even fractional or minus.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>These k-factors would be assigned by<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> pilot and voted on only by members that have at least 24" of snow<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> each year.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> What do you all think?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> I want to be fair.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> JLK<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> Try it now._______________________________________________<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>> <a
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