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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>J N Hiller<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, April 30, 2008
9:34 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Rules change proposal</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle21><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Being a fair weather flier living in snow country with
multiple physical and questionable mental disorders I certainly could use some
help. Sounds like a refined handicap system could result in everyone getting
1000 normalized points leaving only judging discrepancies to separate
contestants. Interesting. If we just use performance projection based on
historical averages we could just award the placement trophies without having
to judge. Is it Bud time yet.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle21><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Jim Hiller <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>rcmaster199@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, April 30, 2008
9:14 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Rules change proposal</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Ohhhhh!!!!!!!!!!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Do you mean
we should stop giving Jason and Andrew kiddie points???? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte@cox.net><br>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Sent: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 9:13 am<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules change proposal</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>You were kidding? I wasn't kidding about getting special scoring bonuses for age and (lack of) height. Or was I? Ron VP On Apr 30, 2008, at 6:01 AM, John Konneker wrote: > Matt, > You know I'm just kidding right? > :-) > JLK > > > From: <a
href="mailto:mjfrederick@cox.net">mjfrederick@cox.net</a> > To: <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a> > Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:40:55 -0500 > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules change proposal > > I don't see the necessity for such a proposal... All the people you > are competing with in your region (hence breaking the NSRCA up into > districts) are dealing with the same problem. It would be a net > <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> zero change in the results, just allowing you to feel better about > yourself because you got better scores... to quote the Godfather... > "After all, we are not communists..." While we're at it let's just > change the name of the sport to Soccer... > > Matt > > Yeah, I know I'm gonna ruffle some feathers with the soccer > remark... get over it... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Konneker > To: General pattern discussion > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 4:34 PM > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules change proposal > > Anthony, > Please don't think of it as a "handicap". > Think of it as a well...let's call it what it is. > A "Correction Factor". > I can see this process causing a lot of changes. > How 'bout the monthly magazine's name becomming "The NSRCA > Correction Factor"?!? > This is only the tip of the iceberg (get it...iceberg...lol) > JLK > > ></span></font><o:p></o:p></tt></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> ; Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:19:51 -0700 > From: <a
href="mailto:aabdu@sbcglobal.net">aabdu@sbcglobal.net</a> > To: <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules change proposal > > John, > You are a fricking genius. As a snow belt sufferer living less than > 90 miles from <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Buffalo</st1:City> <st1:State w:st="on">New York</st1:State></st1:place>, I could use the "handicap" to > adjust for our nearly 8 month long winter and subsequent RC > inactivity. > > Tim Wortkoetter <<a
href="mailto:twortkoetter@yahoo.com">twortkoetter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote: > I think it should also apply to people who have two kids under the > age of 3. > > Tim Wortkoetter > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: John Konneker <<a
href="mailto:jlkonn@hotmail.com">jlkonn@hotmail.com</a>> > To: Discussion List <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrc</a></span></font></tt><span
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style='font-size:10.0pt'><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"> a.org</a><tt><font
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='color:black'>> > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 3:56:43 PM > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules change proposal > > I have been impressed by the spirit of fair play and sportsmanship > in the NSRCA since returning to pattern. > I feel though that there has been an oversight in the rules that I > think now could be corrected. > I just got in from flying my Focus II for the first time since last > October. > It (I) was terrible! The long winter layoffs here in the northern > climes imposes a real hardship on pattern pilots living here. > To be fair I would like to propose an adjustment to the maneuver k- > factors based on the annual mean temperature and > extreme lows (I want to leave out highs) of where one lives. > For example my lowest k-factor would be 10 for landing and takeoff > and then go up from there according to degree of difficulty of > maneuver. In some cases I can see 20+ easily. ><o:p></o:p></span></font></tt></span></font></pre><pre
style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> Folks like Derek, Ron Davies, Chris Fitzsimmons living in > <st1:State
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">California</st1:place></st1:State> would have highest k-factors of 1...who knows...maybe > even fractional or minus. These k-factors would be assigned by > pilot and voted on only by members that have at least 24" of snow > each year. > What do you all think? > I want to be fair. > JLK > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. > Try it now._______________________________________________ > NSRCA-discussion mailing list > <a
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