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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>No the XXc is the Oxai model. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The Extreme Composite version was sold around the world as
the Astral XX but was an early version of the model and was not sold in
Japan under that name. It was the Aurea(japan market) built by
Extreme composite. It was an earlier design of the model.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The XXplus was the Naruke Hobby one built in Japan. The
Plus and the XXc (custom) were essentially the same flying wise. The difference
was the amount of negative stab. The XXc was like -6 degs and the Plus was -8.
Other than that they were the same airfoils and same model. The construction is
a little different between the XXc and the Plus. Both are wood models. The Plus
had the clear canopy and a balsa built up wing. Yes balsa ribs. The XXc was the
Oxai version and it is a wood model with foam wings sheeted. The Oxai XXc also
had a glass and painted canopy. The Oxai version is about 6-8oz lighter than the
Naruke Hobby version and about 1/2 the cost. Most of this weight is the clear
canopy and little doll inside.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Right now the latest Naruke design from Oxai is the Aries.
It has a clear canopy like the Naruke Hobby version, and is essentially the same
model. As I understand it they are not doing the extreme composite route with
that model. Naruke I think was trying to serve a price break market. The cheaper
Aurea was around 2K, then the Oxai was around 3K and the Naruke Hobby custom one
if you can get on the list is around 5-6K. The custom hand built ones in Japan
are a long lead time and very hard to get even at the high price point. They
build the plane specifically for you. That is again if you can get on the list.
They are pretty awesome models.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Troy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:39
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Amethyst
EP Bipe</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Oh, that's right... The XXc wasn't an Oxai model...
I had forgotten that.<BR>Good info! Thanks
Troy!<BR> <BR>Rex<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Oxai has never provided a choice of stab. There is one
Pinnacle that was built and heavily modified for me. It had a negative
tail on it. But it also had many other mods too. It was my Electric Pinnacle
and it was a one of a kind. I wished it was not an electric model. I would
likely be flying it still today. It was a really good model, but I didn't
like it was Electric.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>All 2007 and later Beryl's had the negative stab. Yes
it was possible to buy the later stab and retrofit it to the older Beryl
(straight stab models) but it was never an option.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>All the Astral XXc models had the negative stab. You
are thinking of a different model. Quality wise, construction material
wise and also weight wise it was and is NOT an Oxai model, not even in
the same ball park.. Not to mention it wasn't even the same plane. Different
wing, stab and the fuse was also slightly different too. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I'm pretty close to the Importer of the Oxai planes
into the USA and we keep up pretty close on what is available and new with
the models.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The Oxai Bipes are very impressive. I have a pair of
them and really like the way they fly. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Troy</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:48
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Amethyst EP Bipe</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Ya, I figured You'd know about it... I just hadn't
seen anything on the list about it yet.<BR>I'm already looking for my next
project, and would like to see some feedback on a few <BR>different planes
before I decide the direction I'd like to go. I'm wondering if the
buyer<BR>has a choice on the stab.... like on the Beryll and
Astral?<BR>I really like the way they go together. Really
simple.<BR>Thanks Troy. I was just trying to stir the pot a little
and see what pops up!<BR> <BR>Rex<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Rex,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>what would like to know?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Bare airframe is 2400g Electric only and it will
be close on the weight limit. The prototype models all made weight. With
various power combos. From the Hacker c50 to the Oxai
motor. Similar plug together snap together wing attachment to that
of my Adventure and Euphoria Bipes. Both from Oxai. Two bolts are the
only fasteners needing tools to attach the wings and "I" struts No
flying wires used or needed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Wings all glassed and painted. Like all Oxai
models.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Adjustable plug in stab</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Access hatch for the batts when its all put
together.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>What else would you like to know?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Troy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 19, 2008
8:23 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion]
Amethyst EP Bipe</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Ok, how many have seen or know about this new
plane... looks pretty interesting.<BR> <BR><A
href="http://www.oxai-rc.com/main/List.aspx?MID=1"
target=_blank>http://www.oxai-rccom/main/List.aspx?MID=1</A><BR> <BR> <BR>Rex
Lesher<BR> <BR> <BR><BR>
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