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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>As Dave suggested around our neck of
the world we do use a metal rod/piano wire works, and poke in the ground to mark
with flags where the pipe is.. When working with a 4 inch pipe it should be
relatively easy to catch the pipe. Inch and a half abit tougher. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> Del</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=patternpilot@verizon.net
href="mailto:patternpilot@verizon.net">Dennis</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 06, 2008 10:25
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Off Topic
- Need Help</DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Having
worked 30+ years in the municipal water industry there is no way of locating a
PVC pipe. I have seen a system that when attached to a fire hydrant or a
faucet will induce a sonic signal into the pipe by creating a resonating sound
into the water. The theory is to pick up the sound with a receiving device. It
wasn’t very accurate though. All locating equipment relay on the ability to
transmit a signal through the pipe. PVC will not relay any signal. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Without a tracer wire the only way to
find your pipe will be to dig it. Sorry.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Rex<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, April 06, 2008 6:11
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA Mailing
List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Off Topic - Need Help</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Oh Ya... I
want to watch that! Ron on his knees, crawling around, listening to the
<BR>ground with a stethoscope! The neighbors are gonna love
that! I hope they take pics....<BR>But, I'm wondering....
will worms give a false reading?<BR> <BR> <BR>Rex<BR><BR><BR
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR>> From:
lightfoot@sc.rr.com<BR>> To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> Date:
Sun, 6 Apr 2008 20:31:52 -0400<BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Off
Topic - Need Help<BR>> <BR>> You can use a stethoscope.<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> Jay Marshall<BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>>
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org<BR>>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jerry<BR>>
Stebbins<BR>> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 6:46 PM<BR>> To: NSRCA
Mailing List<BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Off Topic - Need
Help<BR>> <BR>> Ron, I have seen utilities folks use a very sensitive
mike. They turned the <BR>> water flow off and on and were able to hear it
loudest at two points and dug<BR>> <BR>> a line between. Hit it almost
dead on.<BR>> Jerry<BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From:
"Ron Van Putte" <vanputte@cox.net><BR>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008
5:13 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Off Topic - Need Help<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> > The location is up in the foothills of the Smoky
Mountains in<BR>> > southwest Georgia. The well services a group of
about twenty cabins<BR>> > and the pipes were installed in about 1977.
We want to install a<BR>> > cutoff valve in a 4" PVC pipe about 100
yards from the well, but want<BR>> > to minimize the digging to find the
pipe. I can't find any record of<BR>> > how the pipes were installed; no
layout plan. I think the pipes were<BR>> > privately installed, so no
local utilities were involved.<BR>> ><BR>> > I don't mean to
impose on the Discussion List to solve the problem,<BR>> > but I thought
someone might be able to save me some time and energy.<BR>> ><BR>>
> Ron Van Putte<BR>> ><BR>> > On Apr 6, 2008, at 3:20 PM,
rj520@aol.com wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> >> Try your local utilities
locate phone #. They seem to be able to<BR>> >> find just about
anything.<BR>> >><BR>> >> Randy Johnston<BR>>
>><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > ----- Original Message
-----<BR>> > From: "Ron Van Putte" <vanputte@cox.net><BR>> >
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>> >
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 3:04 PM<BR>> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion]
Off Topic - Need Help<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >>
I am trying to trace the route of a 4" PVC water pipe about 100 yards<BR>>
>> from a well. The pipe is buried about 12" to 14" underground.
I<BR>> >> think it goes fairly straight. I don't want to dig down to
find the<BR>> >> pipe until I'm sure where it is, because the soil is
VERY difficult<BR>> >> to dig in, due to lots of gravel and clay.
Although I'm sure there<BR>> >> are instruments which will enable one
to trace the route of the pipe,<BR>> >> I don't have a clue who to
ask. Any help available out there?<BR>> >><BR>> >> Ron Van
Putte<BR>> >><BR>> >
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