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<body class='hmmessage'>Dennis<BR>
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Did you forget to mark the spots where you buried them?<BR>
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Rex<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 10:10:18 -0700<BR>From: patternpilot@verizon.net<BR>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Off Topic - Need Help<BR><BR>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ron,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">One method I forgot to mention is ground penetrating radar. There are several companies that do this. Kind of expensive though. Used to find pipe and any void in the ground. Even used to find bodies buried in the ground.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Del Rykert<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, April 07, 2008 3:29 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Off Topic - Need Help</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As Dave suggested around our neck of the world we do use a metal rod/piano wire works, and poke in the ground to mark with flags where the pipe is.. When working with a 4 inch pipe it should be relatively easy to catch the pipe. Inch and a half abit tougher. </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=patternpilot@verizon.net href="mailto:patternpilot@verizon.net">Dennis</A> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Sunday, April 06, 2008 10:25 PM</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Off Topic - Need Help</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN class=EC_EmailStyle18><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Having worked 30+ years in the municipal water industry there is no way of locating a PVC pipe. I have seen a system that when attached to a fire hydrant or a faucet will induce a sonic signal into the pipe by creating a resonating sound into the water. The theory is to pick up the sound with a receiving device. It wasn’t very accurate though. All locating equipment relay on the ability to transmit a signal through the pipe. PVC will not relay any signal. Without a tracer wire the only way to find your pipe will be to dig it. Sorry.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN class=EC_EmailStyle18><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Dennis Cone</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Rex<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, April 06, 2008 6:11 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Off Topic - Need Help</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR>> From: lightfoot@sc.rr.com<BR>> To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 20:31:52 -0400<BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Off Topic - Need Help<BR>> <BR>> You can use a stethoscope.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Jay Marshall<BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jerry<BR>> Stebbins<BR>> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 6:46 PM<BR>> To: NSRCA Mailing List<BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Off Topic - Need Help<BR>> <BR>> Ron, I have seen utilities folks use a very sensitive mike. They turned the <BR>> water flow off and on and were able to hear it loudest at two points and dug<BR>> <BR>> a line between. Hit it almost dead on.<BR>> Jerry<BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Ron Van Putte" <vanputte@cox.net><BR>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 5:13 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Off Topic - Need Help<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > The location is up in the foothills of the Smoky Mountains in<BR>> > southwest Georgia. The well services a group of about twenty cabins<BR>> > and the pipes were installed in about 1977. We want to install a<BR>> > cutoff valve in a 4" PVC pipe about 100 yards from the well, but want<BR>> > to minimize the digging to find the pipe. I can't find any record of<BR>> > how the pipes were installed; no layout plan. I think the pipes were<BR>> > privately installed, so no local utilities were involved.<BR>> ><BR>> > I don't mean to impose on the Discussion List to solve the problem,<BR>> > but I thought someone might be able to save me some time and energy.<BR>> ><BR>> > Ron Van Putte<BR>> ><BR>> > On Apr 6, 2008, at 3:20 PM, rj520@aol.com wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> >> Try your local utilities locate phone #. They seem to be able to<BR>> >> find just about anything.<BR>> >><BR>> >> Randy Johnston<BR>> >><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > From: "Ron Van Putte" <vanputte@cox.net><BR>> > To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>> > Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 3:04 PM<BR>> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Off Topic - Need Help<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >> I am trying to trace the route of a 4" PVC water pipe about 100 yards<BR>> >> from a well. The pipe is buried about 12" to 14" underground. I<BR>> >> think it goes fairly straight. I don't want to dig down to find the<BR>> >> pipe until I'm sure where it is, because the soil is VERY difficult<BR>> >> to dig in, due to lots of gravel and clay. Although I'm sure there<BR>> >> are instruments which will enable one to trace the route of the pipe,<BR>> >> I don't have a clue who to ask. Any help available out there?<BR>> >><BR>> >> Ron Van Putte<BR>> >><BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> > http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion <BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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