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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think it may be an idea waiting to
blossom.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have long wished for an airplane like a 40
size Extra 300 that flies like a 2 meter pattern plane. I can accept that is not
pattern legal. I expect the total contests that I might compete in with my
remaining life expectancy is well under 50 but hopefully my days at the field
are well over that number. I would like to be able to enjoy my flying
more.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Uncle Sam don't send his birds aloft without exotic
electronics these days.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The proposed aircraft might function as a cross
between a 2 meter bird and a simulator. If the characteristics are close enough
it could provide a lower cost method for practice.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If it could be:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Easier to transport</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Use less fuel/batteries</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>programmed for ground avoidance</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Then: </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It would justify a budget on par with the existing
2 meter competition birds.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bear in mind, I am getting a little cabin fever
with the limited mobility issues I am currently dealing with...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>John Ferrell W8CCW<BR> <BR>"All that is necessary
for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -- Edmund Burke<BR><A
href="http://DixieNC.US">http://DixieNC.US</A><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:55
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI
Judges for finals at the Nats</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=690375401-27032008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>When the
$$$$$ is right, the size and weight are low and there is a new
class...lol</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=690375401-27032008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Sportsman</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=690375401-27032008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>intermediate</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=690375401-27032008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Advanced</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=690375401-27032008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Masters</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=690375401-27032008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>F3A</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=690375401-27032008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Perfection</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A
href="http://www.jasonshulman.com">www.jasonshulman.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com">www.shulmanaviation.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.composite-arf.com">www.composite-arf.com</A></FONT> </P>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Lance
Van Nostrand<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 26, 2008 7:41 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI Judges for
finals at the Nats<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>At work we just bought some GPSs that have
100ms sample rates and 1m accuracy (I guess the military cloak is
lifting??). When will we have plotting and pattern recognition
software that can plot your flight and give a non-biased score?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=JAStebbins@worldnet.att.net
href="mailto:JAStebbins@worldnet.att.net">Jerry Stebbins</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:05
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI
Judges for finals at the Nats</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also nothing has been said about ego's. There
are always some pilots (all classes) that do not get the scores "they
think they flew". Then they gripe about the "name" pilots getting a break
and do not accept that they DID NOT fly as well as they thought!
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Such is life--</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Those are the ones I would be a lot more
concerned about!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jerry</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=mjfrederick@cox.net href="mailto:mjfrederick@cox.net">Matthew
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 25, 2008 10:37
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI
Judges for finals at the Nats</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I know when I'm being petty I always try to
be logical about it...</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=patterndude@tx.rr.com
href="mailto:patterndude@tx.rr.com">Lance Van Nostrand</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 25, 2008
8:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
FAI Judges for finals at the Nats</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Seems to me the more direct line threat
would be the FAI guy that didn't make the finals and is asked to judge
Masters on a pilot that was in his judging panel, or vice versa.
The case of a guy in the same class carrying sour grapes against a guy
that flew in front of the same judges is simply absurd. I won't
argue that it doesn't exist, but if you are going to be petty, at
least be logical about it :)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 25, 2008
11:06 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
FAI Judges for finals at the Nats</DIV>
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<DIV>Hmmmm!! <SPAN contentEditable=false
style="DISPLAY: inline-block"></SPAN>The guys who made the Final
were not scored by their same-class peers!! So, if the guys who
didn't make the Final were given the opportunity to judge the guys
who did, then the potential for a few sour grapes could exist....I
think that's what John seems to say.</DIV>
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<DIV>Considering the number of times we have cussed and discussed on
this list the issue of grudges carrying over to the judging chairs,
John has a point</DIV>
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<DIV>MattK</DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Lance Van
Nostrand <patterndude@tx.rr.com><BR>To: NSRCA Mailing List
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2008
1:09 am<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI Judges for finals at
the Nats<BR><BR>
<DIV id=AOLMsgPart_0_5d45ea89-8cc1-4763-b278-3aa15cf7118a
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN: 0px; COLOR: #000; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff"><PRE style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><TT>I dont' understand where revenge scoring has a base. The guys that made the finals didn't give themselves the scores they got. --Lance ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ferrell" <<A href="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">johnferrell@earthlink.net</A>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI Judges for finals at the Nats > Some one always raises the question of whether or not enough healing has > taken place for the recently defeated to be objective. > > I think it is asking too much of them to judge without a little time > off..and if not, it should keep the finalis!
t from worrying about a > "revenge > score". > > If we were all perfect I would agree, they are well qualified. > > John Ferrell W8CCW > > "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do > nothing." -- Edmund Burke > <A href="http://dixienc.us/" target=_blank>http://DixieNC.US</A> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JShulman" <<A href="mailto:jshulman@cfl.rr.com">jshulman@cfl.rr.com</A>> > To: "NSRCA" <<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>> > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 3:04 PM > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI Judges for finals at the Nats > > >> Happy Easter >> >> Last night the great dinner discussion was why can't we use Semifinalists >> as Finals judges during the Nats. I know this has come up >> before, but not sure if it was ever discussed more, or what the outcome >!
;> was. Why couldn't we use semifinalist pilots as judges? What &g
t;> better pilots to know the F sequence than those that have to fly it? >> >> When you are all done with your Easter weekend, this should help bring in >> the new week...lol. >> >> Regards, >> Jason >> <A href="http://www.jasonshulman.com/" target=_blank>www.jasonshulman.com</A> >> <A href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com/" target=_blank>www.shulmanaviation.com</A> >> <A href="http://www.composite-arf.com/" target=_blank>www.composite-arf.com</A> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1338 - Release Date: >> 3/21/2008 >> 5:52 PM >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NSRCA-discussion mailing list >> <A href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A> >> <A href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-d! iscussion" target=_blank>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</A> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > NSRCA-discussion mailing list > <A href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A> > <A href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target=_blank>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</A> _______________________________________________ NSRCA-discussion mailing list <A href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A> <A href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target=_blank>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</A> </TT></PRE></DIV>
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