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<P>-------------- Original message from nsrca-discussion-request@lists.nsrca.org: -------------- <BR><BR><BR>> Send NSRCA-discussion mailing list submissions to <BR>> nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> <BR>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion <BR>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <BR>> nsrca-discussion-request@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> <BR>> You can reach the person managing the list at <BR>> nsrca-discussion-owner@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> <BR>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific <BR>> than "Re: Contents of NSRCA-discussion digest..." <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Today's Topics: <BR>> <BR>> 1. Re: Looking for a Dave Scully in Ohio (Karl G. Mueller) <BR>> 2. Eclipse wing attachment (Bob Wilson) <BR>> 3. Re: Li-Mn Batteries (Anthony Romano) <BR>> 4. Re: Looking for a Dave Scully in Ohio (Bo
b Richards) <BR>> 5. Re: Eclipse wing attachment (Anthony Romano) <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- <BR>> <BR>> Message: 1 <BR>> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 10:34:00 -0500 <BR>> From: "Karl G. Mueller" <KGAMUELLER@ROGERS.COM><BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Looking for a Dave Scully in Ohio <BR>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>> Message-ID: <02bb01c88cfb$60687ec0$04000005@phub.net.cable.rogers.com> <BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" <BR>> <BR>> Verne, <BR>> <BR>> I think I got the last two Summit III kits that Scully produced at the time. <BR>> One of these went to Bob Kane after I flew it for a few years and he passed <BR>> it on to some one else. Don't know if it is still flying today, but mine is. <BR>> I get it out every spring to see if the fingers are still working before I <BR>> go back to the 2 m version
s. <BR>> <BR>> Karl G. Mueller <BR>> kgamueller@rogers.com <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Verne Koester" <VERNE@TWMI.RR.COM><BR>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 11:26 PM <BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Looking for a Dave Scully in Ohio <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > Everytime I see Wayne Ullery, I ask about Dave. Dave and Pat moved to <BR>> > Bradenton, Florida after they sold Aero Composites and retired. That was <BR>> > probably ten years ago or so. Wayne Ullery is Qui Que's caller and partner <BR>> > for those that don't know him. I last saw Wayne in Argentina at the <BR>> World's <BR>> > and asked about Dave as usual. Wayne had been in touch with shortly before <BR>> > that. Wayne's probably your best bet to get in touch with Dave. Scully was <BR>> > truly a pioneer in composite construction. A lot of what we s
ee and marvel <BR>> > at today was already happening at the "Scully skunkworks" twenty years <BR>> ago. <BR>> > Wayne Ullery was right in there as well. Scully got out of the pattern kit <BR>> > business years ago and did contract work for the military. Anyway, hope <BR>> this <BR>> > helps. <BR>> > <BR>> > Verne Koester <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> > From: "Ron Van Putte" <VANPUTTE@COX.NET><BR>> > To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>> > Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 5:09 PM <BR>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Looking for a Dave Scully in Ohio <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > > The last time I saw Dave Scully was back in Dayton, Ohio in the late <BR>> > > 1960s and 1970s. He was a member of the Western Ohio Radio Kontrol <BR>> > > Society (WORKS). <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Ron Van Putte <BR>> &
gt; > <BR>> > > On Mar 22, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Martin X. Moleski, SJ wrote: <BR>> > > <BR>> > >> I have a TOC history on my website: <BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> http://moleski.net/rc/toc.htm <BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> There is this note on it: <BR>> > >> <BR>> > >>> From Jon Britt, Grain Valley, MO (near Kansas City): <BR>> > >> <BR>> > >>> Mike McConville's commentary about the biplanes at the 1984 TOC is <BR>> > >>> correct. In <BR>> > >>> 1984, Dean Koger and I each flew a Skybolt designed by Dave Scully <BR>> > >>> (Dayton, <BR>> > >>> OH). Hanno Prettner's was disqualified. <BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> Mike Heneghan, USAF (Ret), knew a Dave Scully in Thailand <BR>> > >> in 1973. He and Dave were both in the RC club there. <BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> An
ybody know Dave? Mike would like to say hi to him. <BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> Marty <BR>> > >> <BR>> > >> _______________________________________________ <BR>> > >> NSRCA-discussion mailing list <BR>> > >> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> > >> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion <BR>> > > <BR>> > > _______________________________________________ <BR>> > > NSRCA-discussion mailing list <BR>> > > NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> > > http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion <BR>> > > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > _______________________________________________ <BR>> > NSRCA-discussion mailing list <BR>> > NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> > http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion <BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -----------------
------------- <BR>> <BR>> Message: 2 <BR>> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:39:10 -0500 <BR>> From: "Bob Wilson" <WILSORC@GMAIL.COM><BR>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Eclipse wing attachment <BR>> To: NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> Message-ID: <BR>> <888fdd980803230739h72dc4902y4f0280ef8d8b062e@mail.gmail.com> <BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" <BR>> <BR>> I just bought a used CA Models "Eclipse" with a YS 140, Hitori pipe etc. <BR>> I have a question about the wing attachment. <BR>> Each wing half slides onto the aluminum center tube and there is an incident <BR>> adjustment peg on the fuse that the trailing edge of each wing fits over. <BR>> The aluminum center tube is tapped for a 4-40 bolt about 8 inches out from <BR>> the fuse on both sides. Once the wing halfs are slid onto the tube, theses <BR>> 4-40 bolts are inserted through the top of the wing. <BR>> <BR>> That's it! Kind of a cheesey arrange
ment. <BR>> <BR>> There is a hole in the fuse at the leading edge of the wing and a <BR>> corresponcding (plywood reinforced) hole in each wing half. However, there <BR>> isn't any hardware associated with these attachment points. I think <BR>> something is ovbviously missing and would appreciate it if anyone with <BR>> "Eclipse" experience could help me out. <BR>> <BR>> Thanks, <BR>> Bob Wilson <BR>> -------------- next part -------------- <BR>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... <BR>> URL: <BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/pipermail/nsrca-discussion/attachments/20080323/6f32df56/ <BR>> attachment-0001.html <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------ <BR>> Bob</P>
<P>I have built and flown several of these. Don't use the 4-40 bolt thru the top of the wing. What is missing in the front of the wing is a 1/4 x 20 bolt that is mounted into the wing half and the nut is threaded on thru the canopy opening for installing and removing the wing.. FYI</P>
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<P>NSRCA 54<BR>> Message: 3 <BR>> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 10:56:32 -0400 <BR>> From: Anthony Romano <ANTHONYR105@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Li-Mn Batteries <BR>> To: NSRCA Mailing List <NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>> Message-ID: <BLU124-W3FF8EFBF364590A61230DE2030@PHX.GBL><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" <BR>> <BR>> Hi Wayne, <BR>> Never touched a LiMn cell but have about 70 flights on some A123's in a <BR>> Vanquish. LiFe are much more durable than Lipo but are lower voltage and a bit <BR>> heavier. Most of this is due to the Al case vs the poly bags used with other <BR>> chemistries. LiFe are also chemically more stable and durable with the ability <BR>> to be discharged at 30C and charged at 5C. They have a very flat discharge curve <BR>> and can be drawn completely flat with no damage to the cells for more than 300 <BR>> cycles. <BR>> <BR>> http://www.a123racing.com <BR>>
; <BR>> <BR>> http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/fg28/17411-a123-batteries-dummies.html <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Still in their infancy and need more capacity and less weight. Requires a lot <BR>> of DIY but great to have more options on the horizon. Learned lot about these on <BR>> RCgroups and Flying Giants but they still need some more development. Currently <BR>> they are primarily being used in Dewalt and B&D cordless tools and the big hope <BR>> for the E autos of the future. <BR>> <BR>> Anthony <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: wgalligan@att.net <BR>> To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 10:05:27 -0400 <BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Li-Mn Batteries <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Anthony, <BR>> <BR>> What's the diff between Mn and Fe type <BR>> cells? <BR>> <BR>> Wayne <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ---
-- <BR>> From: <BR>> Anthony <BR>> Romano <BR>> To: NSRCA Mailing List <BR>> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 9:46 <BR>> AM <BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Li-Mn <BR>> Batteries <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Just to clarify those cells are A123 Li Fe not <BR>> Li Mn. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > From: wgalligan@att.net <BR>> > <BR>> To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> > <BR>> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:34:29 -0500 <BR>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] <BR>> Li-Mn Batteries <BR>> > <BR>> > Joe, <BR>> > <BR>> > Check Bob Pastorello's <BR>> web page. www.rcaerobats.net He has <BR>> done some <BR>> > extensive testing on these and is having good success with <BR>> them running one <BR>> > pack for receiver and ignition on his gassers. He is <BR>> running the Spectrum <BR>> > radio so there has not been much of an issue <BR>> with interferen
ce. He is <BR>> > running a 2 cell 2300 mil pack on the 50cc <BR>> gas stuff. Like Matt said, <BR>> > sounds like great stuff and no fire issues <BR>> with these batts. They are <BR>> > slightly heavier then LiPo's but still <BR>> lighter then NiMh. Bob also claims a <BR>> > very flat discharge rate at <BR>> about 6.5 v therefore he is not even using a <BR>> > regulator. <BR>> > They <BR>> can be quick charged in about 30 min or less with no issues of igniting <BR>> <BR>> > like LiPo's or Li-Ion. I am considering switching over to these when <BR>> my <BR>> > NiMh give out. You can buy the cells at Homie Depot in 2cell packs <BR>> or <BR>> > disassemble the larger packs used in drills and make useable packs <BR>> out of <BR>> > them. Visit the different links Bob has posted for more info. <BR>> Good stuff. <BR>> > <BR>> > Wayne Galligan <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > ----
- <BR>> Original Message ----- <BR>> > From: "Joe Dunnaway" <BR>> <DUNNAWAY@HBCOMM.NET><BR>> > To: "NSRCA" <BR>> <NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>> > Sent: Saturday, March 22, <BR>> 2008 6:40 PM <BR>> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Li-Mn Batteries <BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> > <BR>> > > I'm thinking about changing from NiMh batteries to <BR>> Li-poly for my <BR>> > > receiver packs. I've found some references to <BR>> Li-Mn batteries. Have <BR>> > > any of you guys had any experience with <BR>> these? It looks like you don't <BR>> > > have to worry about the battery <BR>> pack catching fire or exploding. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> http://www.pfmdistribution.com/ <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> > <BR>> > Joe Dunnaway <BR>> > > <BR>> > > <BR>> _______________________________________________ <BR>> > >
; NSRCA-discussion <BR>> mailing list <BR>> > > NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> > > <BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> _______________________________________________ <BR>> > NSRCA-discussion <BR>> mailing list <BR>> > NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> > <BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Watch ?Cause Effect,? a show about real people making a real difference. Learn <BR>> more. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________ <BR>> NSRCA-discussion <BR>> mailing <BR>> list <BR>> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion <BR>> <BR>> _________________________________________________________________ <BR>> How well do you know your celebrity gossip? <BR>> http://originals.msn.com/the
bigdebate?ocid=T002MSN03N0707A <BR>> -------------- next part -------------- <BR>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... <BR>> URL: <BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/pipermail/nsrca-discussion/attachments/20080323/d8d8a44e/ <BR>> attachment-0001.html <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------ <BR>> <BR>> Message: 4 <BR>> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 07:58:41 -0700 (PDT) <BR>> From: Bob Richards <BOB@TOPRUDDER.COM><BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Looking for a Dave Scully in Ohio <BR>> To: NSRCA Mailing List <NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>> Message-ID: <830830.5049.qm@web56512.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" <BR>> <BR>> Interesting. I was just at the field yesterday and bumped into Johnny Clark, at <BR>> top-notch FAI flier in this area (North Carolina) back in the 80s and early 90s. <BR>> He had a Summit III in flying shape, that he had built back around 1990. He also <BR>> had
a 1960s vintage Phil Kraft design with him, that looked brand new. <BR>> <BR>> Bob R. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> "Karl G. Mueller" <KGAMUELLER@ROGERS.COM>wrote: <BR>> Verne, <BR>> <BR>> I think I got the last two Summit III kits that Scully produced at the time. <BR>> One of these went to Bob Kane after I flew it for a few years and he passed <BR>> it on to some one else. Don't know if it is still flying today, but mine is. <BR>> I get it out every spring to see if the fingers are still working before I <BR>> go back to the 2 m versions. <BR>> <BR>> Karl G. Mueller <BR>> kgamueller@rogers.com <BR>> <BR>> -------------- next part -------------- <BR>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... <BR>> URL: <BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/pipermail/nsrca-discussion/attachments/20080323/e38fb22e/ <BR>> attachment-0001.html <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------ <BR>> <BR>> Message: 5 <BR>> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:08:15 -0400
<BR>> From: Anthony Romano <ANTHONYR105@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Eclipse wing attachment <BR>> To: NSRCA Mailing List <NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>> Message-ID: <BLU124-W475D31144F088CB6C61EE8E2030@PHX.GBL><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" <BR>> <BR>> Pretty standard arrangement actually. Not a lot of load on that 4-40 bolt, the <BR>> most important thing is that it stays in place. Over time the thread in the thin <BR>> wing tube will wear but you can just rotate the tube and re-drill. Most usually <BR>> glue a small block of wood or piece of PVC inside the tube to hold threads or <BR>> catch a blind nut. <BR>> If it makes you feel better you could add a bolt through that leading edge hole. <BR>> Just make sure it stays in. Had a nylon 1/4-20 back out of one plane and the end <BR>> result was very messy. <BR>> I prefer the bolts in the tube type of set up to avoid having to take the <
BR>> canopy off every time I assemble/disassemble the airplane. <BR>> <BR>> Anthony <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:39:10 -0500 <BR>> From: wilsorc@gmail.com <BR>> To: NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Eclipse wing attachment <BR>> <BR>> I just bought a used CA Models "Eclipse" with a YS 140, Hitori pipe etc. <BR>> I have a question about the wing attachment. <BR>> Each wing half slides onto the aluminum center tube and there is an incident <BR>> adjustment peg on the fuse that the trailing edge of each wing fits over. <BR>> The aluminum center tube is tapped for a 4-40 bolt about 8 inches out from the <BR>> fuse on both sides. Once the wing halfs are slid onto the tube, theses 4-40 <BR>> bolts are inserted through the top of the wing. <BR>> <BR>> That's it! Kind of a cheesey arrangement. <BR>> <BR>> There is a hole in the fuse at the leading edge of the wing and a c
orresponcding <BR>> (plywood reinforced) hole in each wing half. However, there isn't any hardware <BR>> associated with these attachment points. I think something is ovbviously <BR>> missing and would appreciate it if anyone with "Eclipse" experience could help <BR>> me out. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Thanks, <BR>> Bob Wilson <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> _________________________________________________________________ <BR>> Test your Star IQ <BR>> http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_HMTAGMAR <BR>> -------------- next part -------------- <BR>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... <BR>> URL: <BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/pipermail/nsrca-discussion/attachments/20080323/8b6dc6f5/ <BR>> attachment.html <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------ <BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________ <BR>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list <BR>> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailm
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