Great point Stuart. I'll keep that in mind. It's truely amazing how much lighter you can make a plane by paying attention to every component. It really adds up. Mike<BR><BR><B><I>Stuart Chale <schale@optonline.net></I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Just a thought on your axles if weight is an issue. Switch to aluminum 8-32 bolts. You will save a few grams right there and they will likely be strong enough. I started with a steel bolt axle like you did on my pinnacle but switched over to the NMP aluminum axles. Saved 6 or 7 grams I think. I also switched my landing gear mounting bolts to aluminum and saved another 15 grams or so (6 bolts). The real amazing thing is to compare the weight of a bag of 50 or so steel bolts to a bag of aluminum bolts of the same size.<BR><BR>Stuart<BR><BR>mike mueller wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE
cite=mid:458005.373.qm@web51001.mail.re2.yahoo.com type="cite"> <DIV> I drill out the axles of the MPI's to fit a nylon sleeve (I think it's a 1/4" in size) that is as long as the opening inside the wheel well. After that I put thick plastic washers on these sleeves that to add stability.The washers are about 1/2" in diameter and 1/8" thick. When everything sandwich's in it keep the wheels from wobbling around I use 8-32 stainless bolts for axles. I use a wheel pant mounting method that allows the axles to go all the way thru the wheel pants.</DIV> <DIV> <A href="http://www.rcaerobats.net/Wayne%27sWheelpants.htm" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.rcaerobats.net/Wayne'sWheelpants.htm</A></DIV> <DIV> This is the best method I have ever used. By mounting this way it keeps the wheel pants from flexing in the airstream. Very solid and cheap too. I have used the NMP axles and find that they don't keep the wheel pants
soild enough.</DIV> <DIV> The trick is to keep the skinny wheels from wobbling around. With the tiny axles that they come with you'll need to do something like I am. </DIV> <DIV> So far so good with this system. I had to do it because of weight problems flying Electric. Mike<BR><BR><B><I>colin chariandy <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:cchariandy@yahoo.ca"><cchariandy@yahoo.ca></A></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"> <DIV>Mike, what mod are you applying to the skinny MPIs to improve them?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Colin.<BR><BR><B><I>mike mueller <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com"><mups1953@yahoo.com></A></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"> Hey Colin I have a pair. I'll get you the dimensions when I get
home. They are really nice and very light. I still prefer the skinny MPI's with a modification. I've had great luck with them flying off of a very smooth grass field. Mike<BR><BR><B><I>colin chariandy <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:cchariandy@yahoo.ca"><cchariandy@yahoo.ca></A></I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"> <DIV>Thanks Chad, those look perfect. They need to be just under 17mm wide to fit. I hope someone on the list has one to maesure.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Colin.<BR><BR><B><I>Chad Northeast <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:chadnortheast@shaw.ca"><chadnortheast@shaw.ca></A></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">MPI makes a metal hub wheel that is pretty light but a little wider than the really skinny ones that would probably fit the CARF/ZN
wheelpants. Also it has a harder rubber ring around it so the soft foam does not wear as fast.<BR><BR><A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://www.maxxprod.com/mpi/mpi-29.html">http://www.maxxprod.com/mpi/mpi-29.html</A><BR><BR>Maybe someone has a set on the list and can send you the width!<BR><BR>Chad<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: Ron Van Putte <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net"><vanputte@cox.net></A><BR>Date: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 8:56 pm<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Wheels for skinny pants<BR>To: NSRCA Mailing List <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></A><BR><BR>> I didn't see a response to Colin's request. I have some <BR>> new MK <BR>> (plastic hub) wheels, but none are quite big enough. 2.5" <BR>> is <BR>> approximately 63.5mm. The biggest MK wheel I have is <BR>> 50mm.
I can <BR>> measure it, but don't know how much to scale up the width <BR>> dimension <BR>> to represent a 63.5mm wheel.<BR>> <BR>> Ron Van Putte<BR>> <BR>> On Mar 18, 2008, at 8:37 AM, colin chariandy wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > Can anyone measure the width of MK and Tetra (plastic hub) <BR>> wheels, <BR>> > 2.5" diameter? I'm trying to find out which wheels will fit <BR>> into <BR>> > the skinny pants that come with the CompARF Integral. They <BR>> look <BR>> > cool...so I would like to try to use them. I know the really <BR>> thin <BR>> > MPI wheels will fit but our local feild tends to be soft for <BR>> quite <BR>> > a while, the thin wheels may dig in.<BR>> ><BR>> > Also, where can we find MK wheels in North America?<BR>> ><BR>> > Thanks all.<BR>> > Colin<BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>>
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