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<DIV><FONT size=2>I was wondering how long this thread on trimming would take to
finally hit here?</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=kgamueller@rogers.com href="mailto:kgamueller@rogers.com">Karl G.
Mueller</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:45
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
triangulation trimming</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3>Vicente,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3>"WC" actually is the short form of "Water
Closet".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>That's what the early Toilets were called.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3>Karl G. Mueller<BR><A
href="mailto:kgamueller@rogers.com">kgamueller@rogers.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=adriancwong@earthlink.net
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 17, 2008 10:04
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
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<DIV>WC = toilet. I wonder how many went and check. </DIV>
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<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>Vicente "Vince" Bortone</DIV>
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"WC", huh? I haven't heard that word since I've moved back from Hong Kong
in the early 90's. <BR><BR>May be I should try the knife edge on a
vertical down line, instead of doing it horizontally? <BR><BR><BR>
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<DIV>That is called Coriolis accerelation. That is why the water
closets flush to the right in the North hemisphere and to the left in
the South hemisphere (looking the water closet from above). If
going down straight you are close to the ecuator. If this do
not happens as described the water closet needs to be
trimmed. </DIV>
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<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>Vicente "Vince" Bortone</DIV>
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charset="utf-8"></ZZZSCRIPT>I think Bryan is hiding in his wind tunnel
trying to duplicate the same condition.<BR><BR>I don't think it was my
digits. It's probably between the earth's gravitational pull and
soething in the northern hemisphere. I bet the plane will do the exact
opposite if I fly it in Australia ... .-)<BR><BR><BR>
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<DIV>I think he wishes it was his thumbs... :)</DIV>
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<DIV>The push to the belly was more than the pull to the canopy...
the pull was very slight.<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 3:24 PM, krishlan
fitzsimmons <<A href="mailto:homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com"
target=_blank>homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>I was going to tell Adrian his thumbs cause this..
<IMG></DIV>
<DIV>Just kidding of course Adrian..</DIV>
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<DIV>C
<DIV class=Ih2E3d><BR><BR><B><I>Nat Penton <<A
href="mailto:natpenton@centurytel.net"
target=_blank>natpenton@centurytel.net</A>></I></B>
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<DIV class=Ih2E3d>Where is Bryan when you need him <BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Ih2E3d>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: <BR>To:
"NSRCA Mailing List" <BR>Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 10:17
PM<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] triangulation
trimming<BR><BR><BR>> Bryan,<BR>><BR>> What cause the
plane to pull to the belly on one rudder, and to the canopy
<BR>> on the other rudder during knife edge.<BR>><BR>>
Thx,<BR>><BR>> Adrian<BR>><BR>> -----Original
Message-----<BR>>>From: <A href="mailto:shinden1@cox.net"
target=_blank>shinden1@cox.net</A><BR>>>Sent: Mar 16, 2008
7:17 PM<BR>>>To: NSRCA Mailing List <BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Ih2E3d>>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
triangulation trimming<BR>>><BR>>>Lance you need to
find out exactly where the wing inc . is.<BR>>>I think if
you move your c/g back a little it will help take some of the
<BR>>>up trim out But you prob need more pos inc, in the
wing so we need to know <BR>>>where you are at right now
to determine exactly where to go<BR>>>Bryan<BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=Wj3C7c>>>---- Lance Van Nostrand
wrote:<BR>>>> Bryan,<BR>>>><BR>>>>
The discussion list moves faster than I can try this stuff out.
Too bad <BR>>>> I<BR>>>> have to
work...<BR>>>><BR>>>> I first only moved my CG
forward significantly and have improved overall<BR>>>>
tracking. It was windy Saturday and wind penetration were good.
<BR>>>> Bryan's<BR>>>> suggestion was correct
on CG movement to make this improvement. However<BR>>>>
with the forward CG (and resultant uptrim) it pulls to the
canopy <BR>>>> slightly<BR>>>> on downlines.
At this point I noticed that during inverted flight,
<BR>>>> rudder<BR>>>> input caused a pull to
the belly (plane rose). This was weird. I then<BR>>>>
raised the incidence 2 turns and it fixed the inverted flight
problem <BR>>>> but it<BR>>>> seemed to make
the canopy pul! l worse . Interestingly, KE flight was
not<BR>>>> noticeably
affected.<BR>>>><BR>>>> The other affect is
that inverted 45 downlines drop toward earth faster
<BR>>>> than<BR>>>> upright 45s (which track
nicely). Before this change, both 45s were <BR>>>>
fine.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Is this the
expectation?<BR>>>><BR>>>>
--Lance<BR>>>><BR>>>>
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