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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Dan Venables <danven@telus.net><br>
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Sent: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:54 am<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] triangulation trimming<br>
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<div><FONT size=2>I was wondering how long this thread on trimming would take to finally hit here?</FONT></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:45 AM</div>
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<div><FONT size=3>Vicente,</FONT></div>
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<div><FONT size=3>"WC" actually is the short form of "Water Closet".</FONT></div>
<div><FONT size=3>That's what the early Toilets were called.</FONT></div>
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<div><FONT size=3>Karl G. Mueller<br>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=adriancwong@earthlink.net href="mailto:adriancwong@earthlink.net">adriancwong@earthlink.net</A> ; <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 17, 2008 10:04 PM</div>
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<div>WC = toilet. I wonder how many went and check. </div>
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From: <A href="mailto:adriancwong@earthlink.net">adriancwong@earthlink.net</A> <br>
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"WC", huh? I haven't heard that word since I've moved back from Hong Kong in the early 90's. <br>
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May be I should try the knife edge on a vertical down line, instead of doing it horizontally? <br>
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From: <A href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net">vicenterc@comcast.net</A> <br>
Sent: Mar 17, 2008 7:00 PM <br>
To: <A href="mailto:adriancwong@earthlink.net">adriancwong@earthlink.net</A>, NSRCA Mailing List <br>
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<div>That is called Coriolis accerelation. That is why the water closets flush to the right in the North hemisphere and to the left in the South hemisphere (looking the water closet from above). If going down straight you are close to the ecuator. If this do not happens as described the water closet needs to be trimmed. </div>
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From: <A href="mailto:adriancwong@earthlink.net">adriancwong@earthlink.net</A> <br>
I think Bryan is hiding in his wind tunnel trying to duplicate the same condition.<br>
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I don't think it was my digits. It's probably between the earth's gravitational pull and soething in the northern hemisphere. I bet the plane will do the exact opposite if I fly it in Australia ... .-)<br>
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From: Derek Koopowitz <br>
Sent: Mar 17, 2008 3:36 PM <br>
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<div>I think he wishes it was his thumbs... :)</div>
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<div>The push to the belly was more than the pull to the canopy... the pull was very slight.<br>
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<div class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 3:24 PM, krishlan fitzsimmons <<A href="mailto:homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com">homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:<br>
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<div>I was going to tell Adrian his thumbs cause this.. <IMG></div>
<div>Just kidding of course Adrian..</div>
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<B><I>Nat Penton <<A href="mailto:natpenton@centurytel.net">natpenton@centurytel.net</A>></I></B> wrote:</div>
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<div class=Ih2E3d>Where is Bryan when you need him <br>
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Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 10:17 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] triangulation trimming<br>
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> Bryan,<br>
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> What cause the plane to pull to the belly on one rudder, and to the canopy <br>
> on the other rudder during knife edge.<br>
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> Thx,<br>
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>>From: <A href="mailto:shinden1@cox.net">shinden1@cox.net</A><br>
>>Sent: Mar 16, 2008 7:17 PM<br>
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<div class=Ih2E3d>>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] triangulation trimming<br>
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>>Lance you need to find out exactly where the wing inc . is.<br>
>>I think if you move your c/g back a little it will help take some of the <br>
>>up trim out But you prob need more pos inc, in the wing so we need to know <br>
>>where you are at right now to determine exactly where to go<br>
>>Bryan<br>
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<div class=Wj3C7c>>>---- Lance Van Nostrand wrote:<br>
>>> Bryan,<br>
>>><br>
>>> The discussion list moves faster than I can try this stuff out. Too bad <br>
>>> I<br>
>>> have to work...<br>
>>><br>
>>> I first only moved my CG forward significantly and have improved overall<br>
>>> tracking. It was windy Saturday and wind penetration were good. <br>
>>> Bryan's<br>
>>> suggestion was correct on CG movement to make this improvement. However<br>
>>> with the forward CG (and resultant uptrim) it pulls to the canopy <br>
>>> slightly<br>
>>> on downlines. At this point I noticed that during inverted flight, <br>
>>> rudder<br>
>>> input caused a pull to the belly (plane rose). This was weird. I then<br>
>>> raised the incidence 2 turns and it fixed the inverted flight problem <br>
>>> but it<br>
>>> seemed to make the canopy pul! l worse . Interestingly, KE flight was not<br>
>>> noticeably affected.<br>
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>>> The other affect is that inverted 45 downlines drop toward earth faster <br>
>>> than<br>
>>> upright 45s (which track nicely). Before this change, both 45s were <br>
>>> fine.<br>
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>>> Is this the expectation?<br>
>>><br>
>>> --Lance<br>
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