<div>Hey Mike.. </div> <div> </div> <div>Good rule of thumb, I like the 200.. lol.. </div> <div> </div> <div>As for the 4130, it's more for 60 size planes, such as the Fliton Inspire 60, works awesome in this plane, but it's light also.. From the Axi website it's listed as suitable for .54-.60 -2stroke .70-.80 -4stroke. Although it may work as you save weight with the 8s packs, I think it will leave an undesirable power level. Especially in the wind.. The 120 size are 5320's.. From Axi's website its listed as .80-1.08 -2stroke .91-1.2 -4stroke. And if you can afford it, I would recommend 10s to start, therefore if and when a 2m plane was bought, you don't have to invest a bunch more on packs, while alot of 8s packs go to waste.. </div> <div>I'm not saying you're wrong Mike as I know you have probably done alot of testing in your planes, just mentioning it in case you hadn't tried the 4130 vs the 5320.. That's all. I have had both..
</div> <div>I had a showtime which is a 90 size plane with a 5320 with 10s 3700's and it had just enough power for 3d, but was adequate for pattern. Granted the showtime was a brick.. lol I think it was 11 lbs.. lol . And I had the Inspire which was very light with the 4130.. </div> <div> </div> <div>Chris</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div><BR><BR><B><I>Mike Hester <kerlock@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <STYLE type=text/css>DIV { MARGIN: 0px } </STYLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16608" name=GENERATOR> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For pattern a good rule of thumb is 150 watts per pound. A better rule of thumb is closer to 200 watts per pound. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It takes a lot of experimentation to find the right combination, sometimes what
looks great on paper doesn't work all that well in application. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What you're looking for is more than you "need". this way when you push it in bad conditions, you don't burn it all up.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have found some very cheap chinese motors that work as good or better than what we can get over here from the more established companies. Some combinations are really cool, especially in the 110 range. You're looking for around 1600-2000 watts, motor weight about 500 grams or less, about 250-300kv, and using 8s packs. Lethal =) And fairly inexpensive.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Then you just have to figure out whether you want to turn a large prop slow or a small prop fast. Somewhere in there, you hit the magic for the particular plane.
</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But if you want "established", the E flight power 110 is ok, and the Axi 4130-20 works. Don't get the -16 turn axi as it won't handle 8 cells and won't deliver quite enough power.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-Mike</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=johnferrell@earthlink.net href="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">John Ferrell</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March
05, 2008 12:51 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electric Pattern</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am not picking on Incheon here, the questions are to all:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I too, am struggling to understand how to select appropriate power for a given airplane.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The specs for the ElectriFly 110 call for up to a 15 pound airplane, It sounds like a lot of Watts for an 8 pounder.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A Phoenix 80 controller also sounds like a lot of over kill. Can I assume that the electrics can just be run at a lower power setting and less batteries without overburdening the airframe?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Which AXI would be interchangeable with the
Electrifly 110? </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Would the Dualsky XM5060CA be an equivalent? The advertising indicates 1:1 correspondence to a YS 110.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is the following comment True or False?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It seems that an over spec motor and speed control are only a financial mistake. Flying at reduced power levels is not a technical flaw and in fact may provide a more reliable power setup.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>John Ferrell W8CCW<BR> <BR>"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -- Edmund Burke<BR><A href="http://dixienc.us/">http://DixieNC.US</A><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=pnahobbies@sbcglobal.net href="mailto:pnahobbies@sbcglobal.net">Ihncheol Park</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 03, 2008 8:57 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electric Pattern</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">Jay,</DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">Lots of power setups
available. It all depends on how much you want to put in.</DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">Hacker A50, E-Flite 110, Axi, BPHobbies, Welgard, Dualsky, Neu, Hyperion, etc.</DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">For a reasonable price, E-Flite seems to be a good choice with Castle Phx 80 or E-Flite 60 may also work. I went with E-Flite 110 for Inspire 90 because I couldn't install the YS110 on it. </DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">Hacker, Axi are very good, but I was told these make a little noise during the run. Not sure what that noise is. </DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE:
12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">Hyperion runs really good too.</DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">I can look up if I have spec on Focus 110.</DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">Ihncheol</DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif"><BR><BR> </DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><STRONG><BR><BR>E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.0.178)<BR>Database version: 5.09350<BR><A href="http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor/">http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor/</A><BR></STRONG></FONT> <div> <HR> <div></div>_______________________________________________<BR>NSRCA-discussion mailing
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