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<DIV>You are correct Pilots know who there competition is and its great when there is a change in that winning order.</DIV>
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<DIV> However with a large flying class it would be nice to reward the flying of the day.</DIV>
<DIV>Most do not agree with me no problem at all.</DIV>
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<DIV>Looks like we are back to where we started.</DIV>
<DIV>. Competition at its best</DIV>
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<DIV>It does not matter if we find that same pilot winning first most of the time?</DIV>
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<DIV>I did here complaints on that? Move up! My feelings are if they do not feel they are ready</DIV>
<DIV>Fly learn and enjoy.</DIV>
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<DIV>Lets just leave it that flying the best sequence will win first second and third </DIV>
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<DIV> We do hope the pilots do not move back to collect the awards in the lower class?</DIV>
<DIV>They would be bored and end of leaving pattern.</DIV>
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<DIV>OK looks like everyone is happy. No extra awards </DIV>
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<DIV>Expert Class... Do not think that is the answer for CD's Contest or Pilots </DIV>
<DIV>I would leave things as they are a bit longer. </DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 2/7/2008 2:25:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, khoard@gmail.com writes:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><FONT face=Arial>I'm just glad to be of service!! <BR><BR>The way I see it, by the time you make it to Masters / FAI level you are now enrolled in what I like to refer to as the "Big Boy Program". You pretty much know where you shake out in the pecking order and have known for quite some time what your internal motivations are to shell out the bucks to play the game year after year. . . I don't think adding a few more trophies or awards is going to change much in either keeping people in or making them leave.<BR><BR></FONT>
<DIV class=gmail_quote><FONT face=Arial>On Feb 6, 2008 10:34 PM, Matthew Frederick <</FONT><A title=mailto:mjfrederick@cox.net href="mailto:mjfrederick@cox.net"><FONT face=Arial>mjfrederick@cox.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial>> wrote:<BR></FONT>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sarcasm duly noted, and much appreciated.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial>Maybe you guys should take a cue from school sports and either 1) Not keep score at all or 2) Give everyone a First Place ribbon for participating. Either option would sure help out the judging dilemma!!<BR><BR></FONT>
<DIV class=gmail_quote><FONT face=Arial>On Feb 5, 2008 2:12 PM, Nat Penton <</FONT><A title=mailto:natpenton@centurytel.net href="mailto:natpenton@centurytel.net" target=_blank><FONT face=Arial>natpenton@centurytel.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial>> wrote:<BR></FONT>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><FONT face=Arial>No thanks from this old masters flyer!</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><FONT face=Arial> I don't want a trophy for finishing 5'th, nor do I want a trophy for being old!</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial>From:</FONT></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial> </FONT><A title=mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank><FONT face=Arial>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial> [mailto:</FONT><A title=mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank><FONT face=Arial>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Glen Watson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:43 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'NSRCA Mailing List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Exper Class??</FONT></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial>"Masters group- CDs should add an extra award.. Fourth and Fifth place. something to think about."</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial>A variation on this is to add additional awards by age category like at this year's NATS i.e. highest placing JR, SR, etc. by class at local meets.</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial>Glen Watson</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial>From:</FONT></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial> </FONT><A title=mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank><FONT face=Arial>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial> [mailto:</FONT><A title=mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank><FONT face=Arial>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial>] <B>On Behalf Of </B></FONT><A title=mailto:MargueriteVG@aol.com href="mailto:MargueriteVG@aol.com" target=_blank><FONT face=Arial>MargueriteVG@aol.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:25 AM<BR><B>To:</B> </FONT><A title=mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank><FONT face=Arial>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Exper Class??</FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial>It would be best for the masters pilot who is at the bottom of the pack to STAY in Masters.. Moving back will not help that pilot advance. </FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial>Moving back to a lower class</FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial>.We have that situation covered for a pilot that has been out of flying and wants to get back into it but not for one who just wants to win in a lower class. Win but win with the BEST you can do.. </FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial>IF they flew and advanced they should continue on that path</FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial> Masters group- CDs should add an extra award.. Fourth and Fifth place.</FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial>something to think about.</FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial>Boredom in a lower class --------- we will lose that pilot</FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial>Marguerite</FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial>Its nice we have a problem with TO MANY pilots in Masters. A sign something is working here.</FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial>Marguerite</FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial>In a message dated 2/4/2008 11:45:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, </FONT><A title=mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com" target=_blank><FONT face=Arial>mups1953@yahoo.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial> writes:</FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial>I would like to see the guys that are stuck at the bottom of their respective classes have an easier time going back a class. The main reason we have so many </FONT></SPAN></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial>Masters flyers is we advanced guys thru the system before they were ready to compete due to a lack of competition. It's sad to see guys hit a brick wall and end up quiting the sport due to frustration. </FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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