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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I think you're on to something here. As I recall the
current rules state that points earned are retained for 4 years... change that
to 2 and it might allow some of those people who used to feel like they would be
"cheating" if they stayed in a class for too long to hang around. Granted, I
know attendance at local contests in some districts (not D6) might make it
almost impossible to earn 100 points over 2 seasons... but that's kind-of the
point. This way the people who win every time out will point out quickly and
move up (I think most people know when it's time to move up anyway) and those
who struggle will have more time within the rules to stay in the class they feel
more comfortable with. This is all academic anyway, because nobody really tracks
points. I know I don't. I can't remember a time when I heard someone complain
about having pointed out of their class and having to move up the next year, but
change the point retention to 2 years and it could keep that situation from
happening.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Matt</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 04, 2008 1:15
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Exper
Class??</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Derek,<BR>I think there is a fine line there. Losing
pilots that have to move up due to the points system but don't want to or
losing pilots that are getting tired of being beat by the same guy all the
time made worse by the fact the guy doing the beating doesn't have to move up
anymore after they point out. The answer may be to keep the points
system for the "fast movers" but reset or deduct points for pilots that have
been in a class for some period of time, 3 years for example, but have not
pointed out. In other words they are accumulating points but not by
placing high in large classes. On the other hand I think you can stay
too long in a class without pointing out. If it was left to folks that
could be trusted to do what was right all the time there would be no
issue. Unfortunately that's not always perceived to be the
case.<BR>JLK<BR><BR><BR>
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Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:47:11 -0800<BR>From:
derekkoopowitz@gmail.com<BR>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Subject:
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Exper Class??<BR><BR>
<DIV>There is a discussion going on the District 7 list at the moment about
not forcing people to move up a class (using points). Case in point is
a pilot that was forced out of Intermediate into Advanced and has crashed 2
Angels Shadows due to "pilot error" (he admits it). He is 67 years old
and his skill levels just don't warrant him being in Advanced.</DIV>
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<DIV>Eric Henderson's last article in Model Aviation about the points system
in the NSRCA just proves this issue - I'm in full agreement with Eric on
this and would like to see the points system scrapped. We definitely
need to cater to the pattern pilot that is very uncomfortable flying a new
class (they've pointed out of their current class) and would like to
stay put until they feel more comfortable. This can also happen if a
new sequence is developed for their class and the pilot is
uncomfortable flying it as well in a contest. Shouldn't we allow them
to move back a class until they feel comfortable with the new sequence (as
Chris and Mike suggested)?</DIV>
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<DIV>I would hate to lose a pilot to pattern (and a long time supporter of
pattern) because the system forced them to do something that they just
aren't comfortable with doing.<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=EC_gmail_quote>On Feb 4, 2008 10:33 AM, chris moon <<A
href="mailto:cjm767driver@hotmail.com">cjm767driver@hotmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>I think Mike hit the nail. The real problem is that there are too
many <BR>guys that advance then hit a wall or drop out briefly without an
easy <BR>way to move back. Adding another class is just bad. WIth the
average <BR>attendance at a contest probably around 20, probably less, if
we add <BR>another class to make 6, then that means essentially 3 people
per <BR>class. Not really a competitive atmosphere. My vote would be to
allow <BR>a system for guys to move BACK more easily, only for those who
have <BR>moved up voluntarily and did not point out in their last class or
have <BR>failed to excel in their new class. The peter principle applies
to <BR>flying also.<BR><BR>But that's just my opinion, I could be
wrong<BR><BR>Chris
<DIV class=EC_Ih2E3d><BR><BR>mike mueller wrote:<BR>> I've flown both
classes in the last 3 years. I don't think that this <BR>> discussion
is going to get the rules changed.There are way too many <BR>> Masters
guys who are content with the way things are. I would like to <BR>> see
the guys that are stuck at the bottom of their respective classes <BR>>
have an easier time going back a class. The main reason we have so
<BR>> many Masters flyers is we advanced guys thru the system before
they <BR>> were ready to compete due to a lack of competition. It's sad
to see <BR>> guys hit a brick wall and end up quiting the sport due to
frustration.<BR>> I like the idea that I can fly Fai or Masters based
on my own <BR>> volition. In the midwest we always have large fields in
Masters and <BR>> it's pretty hard to beat the field.<BR>>
Mike<BR>><BR></DIV>
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