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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Scrapping the mandatory advancement rule is an excellent
approach. Where you when I submitted rules proposals in two different cycles to
do just this? I could have used the support as it was soundly shouted down. I
won’t do that again. But it needs to be done. I’m one of those 67
year old flyers trapped in Masters/FAI who can’t move down where my
present skill levels would be more appropriate. Don’t know if I would
choose to back a class, but anyone should have the option of flying the class
most appropriate for them IMO. I think peer pressure would keep the trophy
hounds from staying. One reason Masters is so crowded is ex FAI flyers who can’t
hack it with the top FAI guys anymore and move back to Masters where they can compete.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Dave Burton<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Derek
Koopowitz<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 04, 2008 1:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Exper Class??<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>There is a discussion going on the District 7 list at the
moment about not forcing people to move up a class (using points). Case
in point is a pilot that was forced out of Intermediate into Advanced and has
crashed 2 Angels Shadows due to "pilot error" (he admits it).
He is 67 years old and his skill levels just don't warrant him being in
Advanced.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Eric Henderson's last article in Model Aviation about the
points system in the NSRCA just proves this issue - I'm in full agreement with
Eric on this and would like to see the points system scrapped. We definitely
need to cater to the pattern pilot that is very uncomfortable flying a new
class (they've pointed out of their current class) and would like to stay
put until they feel more comfortable. This can also happen if a new
sequence is developed for their class and the pilot is uncomfortable
flying it as well in a contest. Shouldn't we allow them to move back a
class until they feel comfortable with the new sequence (as Chris and Mike
suggested)?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I would hate to lose a pilot to
pattern (and a long time supporter of pattern) because the system forced
them to do something that they just aren't comfortable with doing.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 4, 2008 10:33 AM, chris moon <<a
href="mailto:cjm767driver@hotmail.com">cjm767driver@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I think Mike hit the nail. The real problem is that there
are too many <br>
guys that advance then hit a wall or drop out briefly without an easy <br>
way to move back. Adding another class is just bad. WIth the average <br>
attendance at a contest probably around 20, probably less, if we add <br>
another class to make 6, then that means essentially 3 people per <br>
class. Not really a competitive atmosphere. My vote would be to allow <br>
a system for guys to move BACK more easily, only for those who have <br>
moved up voluntarily and did not point out in their last class or have <br>
failed to excel in their new class. The peter principle applies to <br>
flying also.<br>
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But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong<br>
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Chris <o:p></o:p></p>
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mike mueller wrote:<br>
> I've flown both classes in the last 3 years. I don't think that this <br>
> discussion is going to get the rules changed.There are way too many <br>
> Masters guys who are content with the way things are. I would like to <br>
> see the guys that are stuck at the bottom of their respective classes <br>
> have an easier time going back a class. The main reason we have so <br>
> many Masters flyers is we advanced guys thru the system before they <br>
> were ready to compete due to a lack of competition. It's sad to see <br>
> guys hit a brick wall and end up quiting the sport due to frustration.<br>
> I like the idea that I can fly Fai or Masters based on my own <br>
> volition. In the midwest we always have large fields in Masters and <br>
> it's pretty hard to beat the field.<br>
> Mike<br>
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