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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi Dave</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I'm not trying to imply that I
have the correct answer to that question. Not all people that advance
through the AMA classes have the desire or deep pockets to handle being
competitive at the FAI level. Some Master fliers in the past have told me the
time commitment is high to be competitive in FAI class. Higher than they can
accept. That may be the biggest reason. Not certain. <FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3> </FONT>But they do enjoy the
difficulty and challenge of flying masters and if told they had to move to FAI
or if pointed out and made to move up to FAI some would choose to leave. I see
it as part of the dues some are willing to commit to play. Some drop out after
making it to intermediate. Others after reaching advanced. Some have stayed and
still fly those classes but realize they don't have the time, desire, money, to
move up and be challenging or at least make a decent showing they can accept for
themselves. I believe the competitive factor varies with us all and what we are
willing to commit to fly pattern. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff size=2> </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I'm even suspect their are
other issues that escape us and why they are happy to fly
Masters. </FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> Del</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=burtona@atmc.net href="mailto:burtona@atmc.net">Dave Burton</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.f3a.us
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.f3a.us">'NSRCA Mailing List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 01, 2008 6:10
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] F at
locals?</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Del,
what’s the difference between ” FAI type” schedules and “Masters schedules”?
You are correct about previous proposals not being accepted. I have submitted
a rules change twice for Masters to fly the P schedule and it was defeated
both times. Won’t do that again, but I never understood the opposition to
it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Del
Rykert<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 01, 2008 3:24 PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] F at
locals?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">So it
would be acceptable to you to drive some away from pattern as it has been
clearly stated that some Master fliers by choice do not want to fly FAI type
schedules. It has been voted on with surveys and discussed on this list
in the past to not use that approach. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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Del </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <A
title=vicenterc@comcast.net
href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net">vicenterc@comcast.net</A>
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href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.f3a.us">NSRCA Mailing List</A>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> Friday, February
01, 2008 11:48 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] F at locals?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I believe that FAI rules states that it is required
more than 2 days event to fly F schedule. I am sure that someone
out there is going to be able to find if I am correct or not. Of
course, we can use the AMA rules and the CD can override this if he
announces the change with time. <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I agree that in Masters we should fly the
current P schedule. This will make a natural transition when
moving Masters to F3A. The rules should be changed to make
the F3A class the final destination of AMA classes. In other
worlds, Masters should not be the final destination as it is
now.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>--<BR>Vicente "Vince" Bortone<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>-------------- Original message --------------
<BR>From: "Tony" <tony@radiosouthrc.com> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Those
are the very reasons that I stopped flying FAI. The FAI rules state
that the F patterns are for Regional, National and International events,
and are not designed to be flown at a local contest.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Anthony Romano<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 01, 2008 8:36
AM<BR><B>To:</B> <ns0:PersonName>NSRCA Mailing
List</ns0:PersonName><BR><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] F at
locals?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Another good
point Jason. The more that the F is flown and judged the better we all get
at it. I can fly Masters or the P with equal mediocrity but the F
always just scared me off. Maybe one of my goals for this year will
be to learn it. Now if everyone promises no laughing I might try
it.<BR> From comments I have hear a lot of guys just don't want to
deal with rollers.<BR> <BR>Anthony<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:
jshulman@cfl.rr.com<BR>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Date: Thu,
31 Jan 2008 19:08:38 -0500<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging by
committee?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=ec300100000-01022008><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Problem
with that is that we're finding that enough FAI guys don't want to
fly F... so why hold 2 FAI- P classes? I understand getting to
know 1 sequence is easier to judge, but the Masters and FAI guys
should be able to have a handle on the other class without much
work. Its probably just me, but if FAI were to fly both P and F, then
having "Masters" fly P might be a more Masters class this way. Then again,
I may be off in left field, or is this right? And since now both the Team
Trials and Worlds pick the winning teams at the end of the contest (after
F) it would make more sense to start flying F locally so it's not a shock
come Nats time.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Regards,<BR>Jason<BR>www.jasonshulman.com<BR>www.shulmanaviation.com<BR>www.composite-arf.com
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Dave
Burton<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:53 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
'<ns0:PersonName>NSRCA Mailing List</ns0:PersonName>'<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging by committee?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">There
is a way to solve the peer judging and several other problems with
changing maneuver schedules for Master’s class.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Let
Masters class fly the most current FAI P schedule as a separate
class. This provides a way that FAI class can judge Masters and be
completely familiar with the maneuvers and Masters class can judge FAI and
be completely familiar with the schedule. Then the rules committee does
not have to come up with a new schedule periodically as it changes every
other year just like FAI. The schedules (P & Masters) are so close in
difficulty that flying the P schedule should not be any problem for
masters class flyers.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">OK,
Flame suit on!</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Mark
Atwood<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 31, 2008 3:56 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
<ns0:PersonName>NSRCA Mailing List</ns0:PersonName><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Judgeing by commitee?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">For our
“matrix” version, the A& B masters groups, we effectively ran 2
contests. The scorer set up a second masters only contest for the B
panel to enter their scores. It worked quite well with only a little
confusion. <BR><BR>It did a great job of picking the top 5 guys and
getting them into the top 8. I’m pretty sure you could argue that
7-12th place might have had some variance...but I think that’s true
regardless of the format.<BR><BR>-Mark<BR><BR><BR>On 1/31/08 3:49 PM,
"Anthony Romano" <anthonyr105@hotmail.com> wrote:</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"><BR> I
suspected this would require super- human objectivity as well as be a
logistical nightmare. However, everyone reall knows the sequence. Really
like the matrix system but not sure how much work that makes for the
scorer. Anyone have any thoughts on how to score that<BR> One
idea that was kicked around in D1 was fly an extra round in Masters to
generate an extra throw away. Each round two masters pilots judge and
don't fly rotating through the entire class. It seems like the time
required would work out the same because the group had two less pilots but
again lot of objectivity ( conscious and unconscious ) required especially
as the contest end grew near. <BR> <BR>Anthony</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Date: Thu, 31
Jan 2008 15:14:15 -0500<BR>From: atwoodm@paragon-inc.com<BR>To:
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org;
nsrca-discussion@lists.f3a.us<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judgeing
by commitee?<BR><BR>Anthony,<BR><BR>I have to agree with Jim, but for
different reasons. We did this about 4 years back at our district
championships with the masters class. We had 17 pilots in masters,
and only one (me) in FAI, and another 6 or 7 in advanced. So getting
any judging at all would have required heavily using the Intermediate and
Sportsman classes to judge, OR, heavily burdening the few Advanced
guys...and sitting through 17 masters flights is a looooong
sentence.<BR><BR>So we did the peer judging scenario. Given the
options, it worked very well. But it requires some serious juggling
to even try and make it work well. We ! used pe er judging for 4 of
the 6 rounds. Two flight lines, with a rolling panel of judges.
5 judges on each line, tossed high and low by maneuver leaving 7
pilots not judging at any given time. This allowed the person before
and after each flight some time to prep and decompress before having to
jump in the chair for 5 flights and then start over on the second
line.<BR><BR>It’s a VERY VERY VERY busy process, not to mention that
unless you completely randomly resort the flight line each round, the
pilot will be judged but the same group...or maybe more importantly NOT
judged by the same group each round.<BR><BR>It worked...but it was messy.
I would only do it again if we were presented with the same grossly
offset numbers of entries. <BR><BR>On a related note... A
better solution was tried a few years later when we had similar numbers
(16 masters pilots)<BR><BR>We created 2 classes of masters...A and B.
we still used FAI and Advanced j! udges, but we were also able
to sprinkle in B judges for A and vice versa. We did 4 rounds for
each group. Took the top 4 from each group and combined them and
they flew the last 2 rounds as a “Finalists” group (with the other 8
judging and flying in their own group for the bottom 8
spots.)<BR><BR> This was MUCH more workable, and I think netted a
fairer event in the long
run.<BR><BR>-Mark<BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR>On 1/31/08 2:46 PM,
"Woodward, Jim" <jim.woodward@baesystems.com> wrote:</SPAN><SPAN
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Anthony,<BR> <BR>**** Attempting a 50 words or less approach without
too much regard for political correctness *****<BR> <BR>I don’t think
peer judging works. I don’t think it sends the right message about
problem solving or achieving a more accurate score per maneuver for each
pilot. Psychology 101 would predict that it does not foster
the right mindset or circumstances for a competitive environment (Reality
TV shows like Survivor are based on one form or another of peer judging).
<BR> <BR>The #1 component that must be correct for it to work
is that all pilot/judges see and subtract about the exact same number of
points per maneuver see the same downgrades. The situation doesn’t
compute if one judge is off from the others or uses impression judging.
A bunch of stuff should probably be in place for this to! work l
ike: large number of judges, drop high score, drop low score, etc.
The highest caliber of honor, integrity, and judge-education is required
by all competitors to make this work. <BR> <BR>I witnessed this
as a Masters pilot watching the FAI contest. I watched the flying
and this scenario VERY close. My opinion is that I would chose not to
compete in FAI in a peer judging scenario.
<BR> <BR>Thanks,<BR></SPAN><SPAN
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.f3a.us [<A
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2008 1:44 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
nsrca-discussion@lists.f3a.us<BR><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion]
Judgeing by commitee?<BR><BR>Finally got a chance to read the current
K-factor and saw a note on the Tangerine contest. The article mentioned
FAI was judged by a commity of the FAI pilots. Could someone please
provide details. Do you think you could keep your objectivity? ! For tho
se that were there how did it work out? Sound interesting because you
would finally be judged by pilots who know the FAI rules and the
sequence.<BR> Could this be a solution for the oversized Masters
class? Obvious drawbacks too, but trying to inspire some
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