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color=#0000ff size=2>Delete my last reply.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=341511101-01022008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2> Was meant to be a private response
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>C.
Smith<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:49 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'NSRCA
Mailing List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judgeing by
commitee?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=237253400-01022008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Jim,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=237253400-01022008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2> I just got home, Sat down to eat my dinner & read
the emails... </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=237253400-01022008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2> When you read this to me this afternoon it did not
make the impression it did when I read it.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=237253400-01022008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2> I am not trying to blow smoke up your skirt please
believe me...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=237253400-01022008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2> It is refreshing to see someone say things honestly
& in such a way.... Too few say what needs to be
said.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2> Jason's response came across as self serving
damage control.. I do not think he comes across as a sincere person.
As a matter of fact he seems very insecure......</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2> He came back at you by saying 3 of the 4 believe it
WILL work.. But I could have sworn you showed me emails from Ryan disagreeing
with the practice..... I would bet you Joe & Ryan in public would agree with
Jason just to associate them selves with him.. I call this by many
names....Weak, Intellectually Dishonest & self serving..
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=237253400-01022008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2> Oh well I just want you to know Good
job-- Nice to see someone with a set.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Woodward,
Jim<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 31, 2008 2:47 PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judgeing by
commitee?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hey
Anthony,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">**** Attempting a 50
words or less approach without too much regard for political correctness
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I don’t think peer
judging works. I don’t think it sends the right message about problem
solving or achieving a more accurate score per maneuver for each pilot.
Psychology 101 would predict that it does not foster the right
mindset or circumstances for a competitive environment (Reality TV shows like
Survivor are based on one form or another of peer judging).
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The #1 component that
must be correct for it to work is that all pilot/judges see and subtract about
the exact same number of points per maneuver see the same downgrades. The
situation doesn’t compute if one judge is off from the others or uses impression
judging. A bunch of stuff should probably be in place for this to work
like: large number of judges, drop high score, drop low score, etc.
The highest caliber of honor, integrity, and judge-education is required by all
competitors to make this work. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I witnessed this as a
Masters pilot watching the FAI contest. I watched the flying and this
scenario VERY close. My opinion is that I would chose not to compete in FAI in a
peer judging scenario. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.f3a.us] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Anthony Romano<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, January 31, 2008 1:44
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Finally got a chance to read the
current K-factor and saw a note on the Tangerine contest. The article mentioned
FAI was judged by a commity of the FAI pilots. Could someone please provide
details. Do you think you could keep your objectivity? For those that were
there how did it work out? Sound interesting because you would finally be judged
by pilots who know the FAI rules and the sequence.<BR> Could this be a
solution for the oversized Masters class? Obvious drawbacks too, but trying to
inspire some
thought.<BR> <BR>Anthony<BR> <BR> <BR> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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