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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Comments such as these are best sent
private&#8230;..</span></font></p>

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<p><b><i><font size=4 color=navy face="Brush Script MT"><span style='font-size:
13.5pt;font-family:"Brush Script MT";color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> [mailto:</span></font><font
 size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>C. Smith<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 31, 2008
7:49 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '</span></font><font size=2
 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>NSRCA Mailing
 List</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Judgeing by commitee?</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Jim,</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;I just got home,
Sat down to eat my dinner &amp; read the emails...&nbsp; </span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;When you read this
to me this afternoon it did not make the impression it did when I read it.....</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp; I am not trying to
blow smoke up your skirt please believe me...</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;It is refreshing to
see someone say things honestly &amp; in such a way.... Too few say what needs
to be said.....</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;Jason's
response&nbsp; came across as self serving damage control..&nbsp; I do not
think he comes across as a sincere person.&nbsp; As a matter of fact he seems
very insecure......</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;He came back at you
by saying 3 of the 4 believe it WILL work.. But I could have sworn you showed
me emails from Ryan disagreeing with the practice..... I would bet you Joe
&amp; Ryan in public would agree with Jason just to associate them selves with
him.. I call this by many names....Weak, Intellectually Dishonest &amp; self
serving..&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;Oh well I just want
you to know Good job--&nbsp;&nbsp; Nice to see someone with a set.</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Woodward, Jim<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 31, 2008
2:47 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Judgeing by commitee?</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hey Anthony,<O:P></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>****
Attempting a 50 words or less approach without too much regard for political
correctness *****<O:P></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>I don&#8217;t
think peer judging works.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t think it sends the right message
about problem solving or achieving a more accurate score per maneuver for each
pilot. &nbsp;&nbsp;Psychology 101 would predict that it does not foster the
right mindset or circumstances for a competitive environment (Reality TV shows
like Survivor are based on one form or another of peer judging).&nbsp; <O:P></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>The #1
component that must be correct for it to work is that all pilot/judges see and
subtract about the exact same number of points per maneuver see the same
downgrades.&nbsp; The situation doesn&#8217;t compute if one judge is off from
the others or uses impression judging.&nbsp; A bunch of stuff should probably
be in place for this to work like:&nbsp; large number of judges, drop high
score, drop low score, etc.&nbsp; The highest caliber of honor, integrity, and
judge-education is required by all competitors to make this work.&nbsp; <O:P></O:P></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>I witnessed
this as a Masters pilot watching the FAI contest.&nbsp; I watched the flying
and this scenario VERY close. My opinion is that I would chose not to compete
in FAI in a peer judging scenario.&nbsp; <O:P></O:P></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>Thanks,<O:P></O:P></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jim W.<O:P></O:P></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.f3a.us
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.f3a.us] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Anthony Romano<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 31, 2008
1:44 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> nsrca-discussion@lists.f3a.us<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [NSRCA-discussion]
Judgeing by commitee?</span></font><O:P></O:P></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'><O:P></O:P>Finally got a chance to read the
current K-factor and saw a note on the Tangerine contest. The article mentioned
FAI was judged by a commity of the FAI pilots. Could someone please provide
details. Do you&nbsp;think you could keep your objectivity? For those that were
there how did it work out? Sound interesting because you would finally be
judged by pilots who know the&nbsp;FAI rules and the sequence.<br>
&nbsp;Could this be a solution for the oversized Masters class? Obvious
drawbacks too, but trying to inspire some thought.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Anthony<br>
&nbsp;<br>
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&nbsp;<O:P></O:P></span></font></p>

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