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these issues. As a matter of fact, I just saw a letter this weekend while I
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at an EC meeting,from the FAA to the AMA inviting the AMA to sit on a rules
advisory board as THE AUTHORITY on model aircraft. This puts us in a great
position where we are involved and have a say in what happens.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Keith Hoard<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 24, 2008
1:38 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Fwd: Altitude limits</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Or. . . you can have some
FAA bureaucrat in a back office write it into law (lumping model aircraft into
the UAV category) and get it signed by the Administrator. . . . THEN we get to
spend months or years fighting an uphill battle, paying lawyers and and politicians
to go back and get the rule changed. . . meanwhile your local model field will
get random checks from the local FAA FSDO office to check for compliance with
the new 400' AGL rule. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Jan 23, 2008 4:41 PM, Lisa & Larry <<a
href="mailto:lld613@psci.net">lld613@psci.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Two schools of thought on this…</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>1)</span></font><font
size=1 color=navy><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:navy'>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Let a sleeping dog lie…</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>2)</span></font><font
size=1 color=navy><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:navy'>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Take the bull by the horns…</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Be careful of the battles you choose. IMHO the AMA should be
aware and should help those fields that come into this issue. If the issue
leads to the FAA, then it is on a path to resolve conflict…</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>On the other hand, if the AMA goes in guns a blazing this may
cause a reaction of, "oh, we missed that…AMA you are right…we (the
FAA) will certainly be obliged to correct the document so that it reads *<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>must</span></b>*, the you *<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>will</span></b>* fly under 400ft AGL across the country…</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Larry Diamond</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.f3a.us" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.f3a.us</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.f3a.us" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.f3a.us</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jay Marshall<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 23, 2008
12:51 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'NSRCA Mailing List'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Fwd: Altitude limits</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Don't we pay AMA dues to resolve things like this? If
enforced it could shut down many types of models.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><i><font size=4 color=navy face="Brush Script MT"><span style='font-size:
13.5pt;font-family:"Brush Script MT";color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:
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style='color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ed White<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 23, 2008
1:30 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Fwd: Altitude limits</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I'm not interpreting this the same way at all.
First, the document is a notice of policy that has been released with the
action only for feedback, not for compliance. It is not a policy yet and
should not be being enforced just based on this document. Second, making
AC 91-57 the authority under which model aircraft are flown is not the same as
changing its contents from guidance to mandatory. The policy does not
change any of the words of AC 91-57 and in fact repeats those words,
"Model aircraft SHOULD [my caps] be flown below 400 feet above the surface
..." That is not the same as saying "Model aircraft MUST be flown
below 400 feet above the surface ...". In order for the 400 foot
limit to be mandatory, the FAA will need to change the existing AC which only
provides "guidance that encourages good judgment on the part of
operators...".<br>
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Nothing in the notice of policy suggests to me that the FAA is proposing to
make any such change. <br>
<br>
Ed<br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>James Oddino <<a
href="mailto:joddino@socal.rr.com" target="_blank">joddino@socal.rr.com</a>></span></i></b>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal'><span style='font-size:
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size=4 face=Helvetica style='font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal'><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>Bryan Hudson <<a
href="mailto:gbflyer@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">gbflyer@sbcglobal.net</a>></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal'><span style='font-size:
13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Date: </span></font></b><font
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style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>January 22, 2008 10:00:42 PM PST</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal'><span style='font-size:
13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;font-weight:bold'>To: </span></font></b><font
size=4 face=Helvetica style='font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal'><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>James Oddino <<a
href="mailto:joddino@socal.rr.com" target="_blank">joddino@socal.rr.com</a>></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal'><span style='font-size:
13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Subject: </span></font></b><b><font
size=4 face=Helvetica style='font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal'><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;font-weight:bold'>Re: Fwd:
[NSRCA-discussion] Altitude limits </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Jim,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>That used to be correct up till Feburary last
year. Long story short. FAA (Advisory Circular) AC 91-57 for model
airplanes has been around since 1981. It "advises" fly models
below 400 feet AGL (above ground level). Because of the growing unmanned
aircraft industry, last February the NTSB / FAA issued a "Policy Statement"
in the Federal Register officially making AC 91-57 the "Authority"
under which models will be flown. So as of last Feb. fly below 400 AGL is
federal law. This information has recently been added to the FAA's own
web site, and now it looks like the new policy is being
enforced. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>New regulation on FAA's web site <a
href="http://www.faa.gov/" target="_blank"><font color="#003399"><span
style='color:#003399'>www.faa.gov</span></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>T</span></font>o fly a
UAS you must have an (Experimental Airworthiness Certificate) EAC, <u>unless </u>you
<font color="#3d3d3d"><span style='color:#3D3D3D'>are a hobbyist and intend to
fly your model aircraft in accordance with the guidance in AC 91-57 "Model
Aircraft Operating Standards."</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color="#3d3d3d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#3D3D3D'>In other words, if you want to fly
higher than AC 91-57 allows (above 400 AGL) then you must have an EAC.
EACs are not being issued to modelers so don't even think about that.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color="#3d3d3d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#3D3D3D'>You can find the Federal Register Policy
Statement that lays this out on this site also. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='color:purple'>www.faa.gov</span></font></a> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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target="_blank" title="Federal Register Notice – Clarification of FAA Policy"><font
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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>James Oddino <<a
href="mailto:joddino@socal.rr.com" target="_blank">joddino@socal.rr.com</a>></span></i></b>
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style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#3D3D3D'>Ed White <<a
href="mailto:edvwhite@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank"> edvwhite@sbcglobal.net</a>></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#3D3D3D;font-weight:bold'>Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Altitude limits</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color="#3d3d3d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#3D3D3D'>It is written in FAA Advisory Circular
AC 91-57, dated June 9, 1981. You can download it from the the FAA
website (<a href="http://www.faa.gov/" target="_blank">www.faa.gov</a> and then
type AC 91-57 into the search box).<br>
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It says "Do not fly model aircraft higher than 400 feet above the
surface." This applies to any location. But because the next
sentence says "When flying aircraft within 3 miles of an airport, notify
the airport operator ..." some people misinterpret the requirement
as 400 feet only when within 3 miles of an airport.<br>
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The key point is that it is an ADVISORY Circular. It outlines the FAA's
preferred model aircraft operating standards, but compliance with the AC is
voluntary. An AC is not the same as a FAR (Federal Aviation Regulation). <br>
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Ed<br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Mark Atwood <<a
href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com" target="_blank">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</a>></span></i></b>
wrote: </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color="#3d3d3d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#3D3D3D'>It was always my understanding that we
were never supposed to exceed 400 ft<br>
and that full scale aircraft were to stay above 500ft. But I'm not sure<br>
where that's written...<br>
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-M<br>
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On 1/21/08 2:35 PM, "James Oddino" wrote:<br>
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> I'm getting some breaking news that there is some type of advisory<br>
> that says we shouldn't be flying above 400 feet at our field in<br>
> <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Camarillo</st1:place></st1:City>.
Are there any general rules about altitude limits that we<br>
> should be aware of? We are pretty far from the <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Camarillo</st1:place></st1:City> airport and<br>
> never get close to any full size stuff so I don't understand why there<br>
> would be a local restriction. More to follow I'm sure.<br>
> <br>
> Jim O<br>
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