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Excuse me, but I like neat and that installation is NEAT. What an innovative and functional installation! Thanks for sharing.<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Ron Van Putte</div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 23, 2008, at 9:16 PM, J N Hiller wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EmailStyle21"><font size="2" color="#993366" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family: Arial">Ops I didn’t reduce the photo enough. This one should make it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EmailStyle21"><font size="2" color="#993366" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family: Arial">Here is another small photo showing the inside of the fuselage.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>If you would like I can send full resolution photos off list. They are about 1800K.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EmailStyle21"><font size="2" color="#993366" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family: Arial">Jim Hiller</span></font></span><span class="EmailStyle20"><font size="2" color="#993366" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial"><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EmailStyle20"><font size="2" color="#993366" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<b><span style="font-weight: bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Pete Cosky<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:19 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> 'NSRCA Mailing List'<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pull-pull setups</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Jim,</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">I'd like to see some pictures of your setup as it sounds like a fantastic idea.</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Pete</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin-left:.5in;text-align:center"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black"> <hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"> </span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom: 12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma; color:black"> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>J N Hiller<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:05 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pull-pull setups</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black; mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span class="EmailStyle19"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial">John, I can’t comment on Kevlar. I have only used steel (.021” Sig control line cable). I also use internal bell cranks to eliminate cable tension load on the servo mount rubber grommets and shaft. This way I can run the cables quite snug. Short ball link connectors connect the bell cranks to the servo.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>By using different holes in the servo wheel or bell crank I can use the full servo travel, and reduce the control surface travel without resorting to non-parallel linkage or transmitter endpoint and accompanying resolution reduction.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span class="EmailStyle19"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial">I haven’t been totally happy using dual elevator servos so I cable them as well, connecting all 4 cables to a single bell crank. It is quite easy to balance the travel, center and end-points by adjusting the threaded control horn and cable length. When I started doing this it yielded the tightest system I ever used.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span class="EmailStyle19"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial">For what it is worth.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span class="EmailStyle19"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial">Jim Hiller <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span class="EmailStyle19"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<b><span style="font-weight: bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>John Pavlick<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:38 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> NSRCA Discussion<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [NSRCA-discussion] Pull-pull setups</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black; mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">I'd like to hear the pros and cons of Kevlar vs. steel pull-pull cables. Also any tips on installing either of them. I've done a few steel setups but I haven't installed a Kevlar one yet. how long does Kevlar last?</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">John Pavlick<br> <a href="http://www.idseng.com">http://www.idseng.com</a></span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <span><128-2879_IMGb.JPG></span><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">NSRCA-discussion mailing list</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></div> </blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>