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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Actually they are both true spread spectrum, just
different implementation technologies. FHSS and DSSS.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A quick Google search will get you more info on it
that you ever wanted to know.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In any case I totally agree that there are going to
be growing pains, especially in such a widely used band.</FONT></DIV>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Archie
Stafford<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 11, 2008 8:59 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'NSRCA
Mailing List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Futaba FAAST
trouble<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Not
one radio has come out that has not had some problems. This time last
year, Spektrums were having problems..QQ lost his new Python at SEFF because
of it. There were other losses as well. I remember when the first
ones came out…they had problems with ANYTHING that got in front of the
radio…Yes, it was geared towards park flyers, but they still had
problems. They learned of the voltage drop problem from QQ, but it cost
others planes as well, just didn’t get acknowledged until QQ had a problem. I
have yet to hear of any incidents with a module based Futaba radio.
I don’t know if this incident on RCU actually happened or not…I’m
curious as to why they went ahead and flew knowing they had an issue on the
ground..and also curious as to the guys setup with a 40% airplane with a 6EX
radio..lots of Y’s or matchboxes there. The Futaba setup does have
advantages..it is true Spread Spectrum where the JR/Spektrum is not. It
never frequency hops. I’m sure there will be growing pains, just like
with the JR/Spektrum. I know Airtronics is also working on a 2.4
system. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Wayne<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 11, 2008 1:24 AM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Futaba FAAST
trouble</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">dedicated circuitry....hmmmm
That sounds like it was done right!</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I'll stick with the Spektrum
product at least people are using it. I'm sure there will be problems with any
system. Its the growing pains of the situation. However to be running ads that
are pretty much bashing the other guys saying Futaba did it right. Egg on the
face it seems.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Besides JR and Spektrum have
the market well in hand. You need a RX for a indoor or park flyer, they got
it. Need a 9 channel system for you jet or Pattern plane they got it and
people have been flying it for months. Need something just for a 7channel
sport plane, got it. Oh and by the way all the stuff from the very first RX on
DSM as well as all the RX's on DSM2, they all work on the same TX and any of
the newer TX's. Its really nice to have reverse compatibility. I guess we know
who did Spread Spektrum Right?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I was looking toward the 14MZ
but a local IMAC guy planted 3 40% models on the "new" G3 RX before
they told him to cut the antenna off. That's a lot of bones to plant. Each
time the RX's went back to Hobbico for a checkup, nothing wrong with them. Its
your setup, its this, its that. He now flies the 10X with Spektrum
Module.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">By the way I love the X9303.
Switched over from the Futaba 9Cap and haven't looked back. The 9303 blows the
doors off the 9C and its got a 2.4 system that works. I think when the 12X
hits the shelves I might drop my dime on it. I just can't believe I flew
Futaba all these years and was missing the forest for all the trees. I have 3
different books how to program the 9C and have yet to crack the plastic wrap
on the 9303 CD manual. Its awesome.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">All I can say it was a sad
day when Futaba closed its doors in Irvine, CA and sent the ball into Hobbico
hands. Back then they had people that knew what was up, knew what was needed
in a system and drove the market. Today they are along for the ride. I wish
Steve Helms and crew were still running the show. Giving us Hysteresis
adjustment OMG, making it a music player another OMG, just make the
darn thing work man! I can listen to music on an 8 track player. I wanna fly
my toy airplane.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Derek the question came as to
what people want from Futaba. Well here is your answer. Futaba Corp of America
not Hobbico.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <A
title=schale@optonline.net href="mailto:schale@optonline.net">Stuart
Chale</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing List'</A>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
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January 10, 2008 7:21 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I
guess I should have said radio not modules (thanks RVP. 6 ch and 7
ch. Here is the RCU thread.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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title=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6857282/tm.htm
href="http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6857282/tm.htm">http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6857282/tm.htm</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Stuart
Chale<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 10, 2008 6:37 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
'NSRCA Mailing List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] Futaba FAAST
trouble</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I am sure a bunch
of you are watching the various threads on this, but if not and you have one
of the Futaba 2.4 systems, be careful. Apparently on a couple of
occasions one radio has shot down another. So far it has only been
reported a couple of times with the 6 and 7 channel modules only. The
word on the forums and I am not sure how accurate this is, is that some
transmitters have been shipped without programming a unique identifier into
them. They have the basic 0000… code. The receiver is bound to
the transmitter’s supposedly unique code. So if two transmitters have
not been programmed with a unique ID then any receiver bound to one of them
will respond or be shot down by the other, because they essentially have the
same ID code. Again I am not sure that this is suspicion or fact but
be careful if you are flying one until more is known.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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C.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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