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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yeah that channel assignment stuff is a pain.
It would be really nice to be able to re-map the channel assignments from the
buddy box radio in the trainer setup menu. Of course if both radios are 14Mz's
it's not a problem. <VBG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A
href="http://www.idseng.com">http://www.idseng.com</A></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=schale@optonline.net href="mailto:schale@optonline.net">Stuart
Chale</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 21, 2007 8:24
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Futaba
and pattern</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There is still a
problem with the trainer system on the 14 MZ.. If the 14 MZ is to be
used as the master for the other person’s trainer radio, the channels have to
be configured to match. This is usually different from the preferred
default configuration of the 14MZ channel groupings. No big deal for the
average trainer setup but I wanted to give my son some stick time on my
pattern plane via a trainer. The only way to do this is to change the
channel assignments on the 14 MZ to match the default of the other transmitter
which could not be matched to the 14MZ. There should be an ability to
map the channels as needed when using the trainer
mode.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Stuart
C.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>John Pavlick<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, December 21, 2007 7:30
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Futaba
and pattern</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bob,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Futaba already has that type
of trainer functionality on the 9C, 12FG, 12Z and most likely the 14Mz
(FUNC mode). What transmitter are you using?
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<H2 style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><B><FONT face=Arial size=5><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Radio System
FAQ<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></H2>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><!--<h2 align="center">9C Radio System FAQ</h2>-->I
want to use my radio with a student's radio. How can I let the student use all
of the programming, mixes, etc that my radio has to
offer?</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">___ 1.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt">
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">First turn on the student radio. If it is a
computerized radio, choose a clean model using the default settings of
100% on throws (ATV/EPA). <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></TD></TR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">___ 2.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt">
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Turn the student radio off and turn on the 9C.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></TD></TR>
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<TD
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt">
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">___ 3.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt">
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">From the BASIC programming menu, select TRAINER
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></TD></TR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">___ 4.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></TD>
<TD
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt">
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Turn Dial left to activate trainer (the display
changes from INH (inhibited) to OFF if trainer switch is not pulled or
ON if switch is pulled.) <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></TD></TR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">___ 5.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></TD>
<TD
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Press the Cursor Down button once to move to
programming aileron. You'll see AIL and FUNC (function). To give the
student the same programming as the master, stay with FUNC. You can also
press turn Dial Left which takes you to NORM (the student radio now sets
rates, throws, mixes, etc), or OFF (which doesn't allow the student to
use this channel. This is often used to keep a student from having
throttle control so the instructor can control the plane's airspeed, or
other functions.) <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></TD></TR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">___ 6.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></TD>
<TD
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Cursor through the aileron, throttle, elevator,
and rudder controls, and confirm they are all to FUNC, or set them to
fit your custom needs (by default, channel 5 through 8 are OFF, but can
be changed if desired for another application).
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></TD></TR>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">___ 7.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></TD>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Next plug up the buddy box, and turn on the
plane, set the MASTER transmitter on LOW rates, and match the surface
throws (both direction and amount) using the ATV function on the BUDDY
BOX. On low rate, you should be able to hold full up elevator on both
the master box and the buddy box, and when flipping the trainer switch,
see ZERO movement on the elevator. The same applies to the rudder, the
throttle, and the aileron.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Now, when you pull the switch to
give the buddy box control, the transmitter takes the buddy box stick
movements and adds any mixes, expo, etc. that you've programmed into the
Master. NOTE: while the student is in control, if high rates are desired, the
appropriate switch on the MASTER box has to be pulled.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">THATS
IT!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">John Pavlick<BR><A
href="http://www.idseng.com">http://www.idseng.com</A></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message -----
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV style="font-color: black">
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=bob@toprudder.com href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">Bob Richards</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Friday,
December 21, 2007 5:56 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Futaba and pattern<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Ok, my 2CW.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I really like the idea of the USB connector. Hmmm,
not a new idea, really, I could do that with my Ace Micropro back in 1992.
Could save all the airplane programs onto computer disk via a serial port.
Could pull up the program information on the computer and edit the values
(although it was not a GUI interface, it was still
nice).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Another thing would be program independent buddy box
capability. In other words, the slave transmitter need only to send the
stick positions to the master radio. That information would then be applied
to the program in the master radio. No need to make sure the slave and
master radios are operating with the same program. Hmmm, again, not really a
new idea, I could do that with the Micropro radio back in 1992.
:-)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Autotrim. Lets say you have just taken off with an
airplane that is out of trim. Instead of fumbling around for multiple trim
levers (or buttons) you just press one button and keep flying the plane
straight and level. The autotrim function will apply trim changes
automatically to any of the the three flight channels so that the sticks
slowly move back to neutral. Again, the Micropro had that
feature.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I liked a lot of the features of the old Micropro
radio, my big complaint was that it was only 256 resolution. That alone was
reason not to use it in pattern.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">As for the 2.4 ghz using the internal antenna
connection, that is not likely to happen on the old radios. I like the fact
that I can swap the module with a 72 mhz module and not have to fumble with
mounting an antenna with an external
cable.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I have flown Futaba for over 20 years, and have had
good service. However, I wish there was better support/marketing in my area
of the country. We had a huge fly-in last year (Fly-for-Tots) with over 200
registered pilots. Horizon/JR sent lots of stuff, including sponsered pilots
to fly demos. Futaba did send a couple of flags and items for the raffle,
but it was a hugh disparity with what Horizon/JR did. I am in a distinct
minority in my club since most of the guys fly JR, so I caught a lot of crap
as a result.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Just my 2CW.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Bob R.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Derek Koopowitz
<derekkoopowitz@gmail.com></SPAN></I></B>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Futaba is looking for some new product ideas for
upcoming equipment and they are interested in seeing what ideas we
all have for the pattern arena that could be new and inventive.
This could be anything from updating current equipment to new product
development. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">If you could put some thoughts together in an
email to me, I'll make sure that they're sent to Futaba
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region>'s attention.
I'll need to have this back no later than the end of the
year!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
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