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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle20><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I’m not
geek enough to follow all of this and don’t fly FAI but years ago when I was
active in IMAC I used CAD to create a schedule diagram from base elements. I
don’t know how they are currently being created but it was relatively easy to
produce the diagrams. It worked quite well but I have blown two computers since
and no longer have the library of elements. This was all manual and only marginally
associated with this discussion but food for thought.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle20><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jim Hiller<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Atwood, Mark<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, December 18, 2007
3:15 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] WC
'07</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Ya
know… I SERIOUSLY thought about creating base element objects and building the
maneuvers from there…but then I got the FAI catalog and realized there’s not
really any point. UNLESS…it’s needed to draw the Arest! A fun
exercise, but probably not very time efficient. </span></font><font
color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri;color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>If
you need a fun multiple inheritance project, build a digital stopwatch by
starting with an simple LED Bar object…inherit into an 8 bar “digit”, then into
a 2 digit counter, and finally an hour/minute/second/100ths’ stopwatch. </span></font><font
color=black face=Wingdings><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:black'>JJ</span></font><font
color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri;color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Keith Black<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, December 18, 2007
5:44 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] WC
'07</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>LVN>
"A maneuver may have more than one base class."</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>KB>
Oooh oooh, finally a usage for multiple inheritance. Guess this won't be
written in Java.</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>If you
don't understand this you're not geeky enough. Just ignore it.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Keith</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>----- Original Message ----- </span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:patterndude@tx.rr.com" title="patterndude@tx.rr.com">Lance Van
Nostrand</a> </span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> </span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>
Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:08 PM</span></font><font size=2 color=black
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mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] WC '07</span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Mark,</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Consider how to handle manuvers with options. I think the
easiest way is to treat all options as different manuvers in the database.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>I would build the app to separate the database and rules engine
from the actual manuver description list. The cross index between the app and
the manuver descriptions is an index key. This allows the system to
expand to produce a list of manuver descriptions, aresti diagrams, calling
cards each as a different report output from the same app.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Your approach to annotate each manuver entry in the database with
attributes is a good one. I'd add a "type" attribute that may
be thought of as a base class. this would identify manuvers according to
their basic types: loops, rolls, humpty, half squares, stall turns. A
manuver may have more than one base class. This will improve the results
by letting you define a rule to prevent too many humpty turn arounds in the
same sequence, for example.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Let the target total KF be an input so you can produce sequences
for all levels</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>This is a fun application of real work skills.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:black'>--Lance</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
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color:black'> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] WC '07</span></font><font size=2
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face=Verdana><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Verne,<br>
<br>
I often have staff that need a fake practice project to work on to learn a new
technology or the like, and I was thinking that a random Unknowns generator
would not be all that challenging and would provide the team some value.
I figure if I plan it now...might have a shot at having something useful
for ‘09 and maybe even for this summer’s Nats practice for Andy.<br>
<br>
Here’s the thought...All the manuevers from the catalog get loaded into a
database. Each is assigned a number of attribute... K-Factor,
Center/endbox, Entry Altitude, Exit Altitude, Entry orientation, Exit
Orientation, manuever class, etc etc etc. Then it’s simply a matter of
writing a rules engine...given the Entry Altitude, current K-factor, etc, you
query for a subset of maneuvers that meet the criteria, and select one
randomly. Of course there are additional checks...no more than X # of
K-5s, etc....no more than 1 from a given class...etc. But it’s VERY VERY
doable, and I think would make a great online Web app that I can host here at
work. People go to the web site...and BHAM...they print off a new unknown...or
20. <br>
<br>
Interested??? I would need some help writing the specs.... And I
may contact FAI to see if there’s a soft copy of the manuevers so they can be
imported. Of course the follow up add on is something that auto generates
the Aresti...<br>
<br>
Thoughts?<br>
<br>
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On 11/21/07 6:04 PM, "Verne Koester" <verne@twmi.rr.com> wrote:</span></font><font
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color:black'>Geez, Mark, I'm all a' flutter....<br>
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</span></font><font size=1 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Truth is, I help Andrew because I enjoy it. I
used to coach him a few years back, but now he coaches me. We did spend a fair
amount of time getting ready but I enjoyed every minute of it. Andrew's a great
kid from great parents (where the credit REALLY belongs). What's not to like? <br>
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</span></font><font size=1 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Thanks,<br>
Verne<br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Mark Atwood <a
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, November 19, 2007
2:06 PM<br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] WC
'07<br>
<br>
<br>
While I want to congratulate Quique, Jason and Andrew over and over and
over again...I feel remiss that there’s been little mention of their
callers. I don’t know who called for Quique or Jason, But I know
the Verne Koester was Andrew’s caller and he put in such an incredible
amount of time helping him prepare that it seems negligent not to include
him in the hoopla. <br>
<br>
I knew Verne would be the first to defer all of the glory for Andrew, but
for those that know how hard these two have worked for this
opportunity.... Twice daily practice routine, Verne creating new Unknowns
every day, hours and hours of critique, all in a very selfless effort to
take a gifted set of thumbs to the next level...well, you have to step
back and give a few claps for Verne as well.<br>
<br>
I’m extremely proud of Andrew...someone that I’ve had the privilege of
helping through the pattern ranks. But I also have huge respect and
congrats to Verne for the effort he made (along with a myriad of other
supporters) to help him get there. <br>
<br>
I KNOW that Jason and Quique have their own “Verne” to thank and I hope
someone jumps on here and lets us all know who they are, so that we can
show them equal appreciation for their efforts.<br>
<br>
-Mark<br>
<br>
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On 11/19/07 1:19 PM, "Earl Haury" <ejhaury@comcast.net>
wrote:<br>
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</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Made it home from Argentina this morning, a bit tired from a
long drive yesterday, a long wait at the airport, and a long nite on the
airplane. The WC was completely worth the effort. The posts so far do not
begin to describe the huge amount of work, the superb flying, and awesome
accomplishment of Team USA!<br>
</span></font><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
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</span></font><font size=1 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>The Team spent huge amounts of time at the
practice field flying in conditions (wind, sun, dark, cold) most wouldn't
even try. Each flight was generally critiqued by a number of Team members
& supporters as these guys worked together to eliminate every
possible flaw. There was total focus and commitment within and for the
Team. Team Manager Al Glenn took care of administrative details -
including leaving the hotel around 5:00am to ensure transmitters were
impounded on time, handling "information just in time"
logistics and essentially doing everything but sleeping. (Don't give him
too much grief when the photos of him sleeping at the banquet publish.)<br>
</span></font><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
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</span></font><font size=1 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>The conditions during the prelims were extremely
difficult. Cross winds in or out each day that approached 30mph at times.
It was amazing how many "unknown" folks flew exceptionally well
and that all of the "know" folks flew even better. Not only
were these guys flying in strong wind - but it was usually quite cold in
the morning sessions as well. The semi's and finals were also windy - but
not as bad and it got warmer, downright hot for the finals. <br>
</span></font><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
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</span></font><font size=1 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Bad luck and a great performance by BPLR
prevented Team USA from winning the Team Championship - BPLR flew one
flight during the only calm period (maybe half an hour) of the prelims
and did a very good job of capitalizing upon the opportunity. Jason was
up next - but a delay to allow for an airliner departure was long enough
for the wind to return before Jason flew. This was enough to swing the
advantage to the French and give them a well fought win - Team USA can be
proud of second, it was a hard fought battle with great flying on each
side, with the Japanese team always in the mix.<br>
</span></font><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
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</span></font><font size=1 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>All of the flying in the finals was exceptional.
Quique was consistently solid, Jason likewise (and winning his first WC
round), and Andrew flying superbly. In hindsight - it may be that the
"in-close" style Andrew flew to good advantage in the prelims /
semi's that may not have scored as well in the finals without the strong
crosswind. <br>
</span></font><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
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</span></font><font size=1 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>There were a lot of electrics (mostly
Hacker) as well as glow (mostly YS) and neither had an advantage /
disadvantage in the strong winds. Either propulsion is totally viable,
Sebastiano even flew a Hacker with contra-rotating props in the finals -
good power and excellent braking.<br>
</span></font><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
9.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><br>
</span></font><font size=1 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>The highlight of the experience occurred
while standing next to Quique when he was announced as the winner (he
didn't know he'd won). I'll remember his emotion forever - he really
wanted this! <br>
</span></font><font size=1 color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
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</span></font><font size=1 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>So - second WC Team placing is good, every
Team member making the Finals is outstanding, everyone in the top 8 is
exceptional, and a USA Team member winning the World Championship is more
than great! The accomplishments of 2007 Team USA are HUGE!!
Congratulations to Quique, Jason, and Andrew - we couldn't be more proud
or appreciative of your accomplishments!! Thanks to the callers who
worked as hard as the pilots, the TM's that handled logistics, and
everyone who contribute to an exceptional performance by Team USA.<br>
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