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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>LVN> "A maneuver may have more than one base
class."</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>KB> Oooh oooh, finally a usage for multiple
inheritance. Guess this won't be written in Java.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you don't understand this you're not geeky
enough. Just ignore it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keith</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=patterndude@tx.rr.com href="mailto:patterndude@tx.rr.com">Lance Van
Nostrand</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:08
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] WC
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mark,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Consider how to handle manuvers with
options. I think the easiest way is to treat all options as different
manuvers in the database.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would build the app to separate the database
and rules engine from the actual manuver description list. The cross index
between the app and the manuver descriptions is an index key. This
allows the system to expand to produce a list of manuver descriptions, aresti
diagrams, calling cards each as a different report output from the same
app.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Your approach to annotate each manuver entry in
the database with attributes is a good one. I'd add a "type" attribute
that may be thought of as a base class. this would identify manuvers
according to their basic types: loops, rolls, humpty, half squares, stall
turns. A manuver may have more than one base class. This will
improve the results by letting you define a rule to prevent too many humpty
turn arounds in the same sequence, for example.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Let the target total KF be an input so you can
produce sequences for all levels</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This is a fun application of real work
skills.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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Atwood</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:35
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] WC
'07</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Verne,<BR><BR>I often have staff that need a fake
practice project to work on to learn a new technology or the like, and I was
thinking that a random Unknowns generator would not be all that challenging
and would provide the team some value. I figure if I plan it
now...might have a shot at having something useful for ‘09 and maybe even
for this summer’s Nats practice for Andy.<BR><BR>Here’s the thought...All
the manuevers from the catalog get loaded into a database. Each is
assigned a number of attribute... K-Factor, Center/endbox, Entry
Altitude, Exit Altitude, Entry orientation, Exit Orientation, manuever
class, etc etc etc. Then it’s simply a matter of writing a rules
engine...given the Entry Altitude, current K-factor, etc, you query for a
subset of maneuvers that meet the criteria, and select one randomly.
Of course there are additional checks...no more than X # of K-5s,
etc....no more than 1 from a given class...etc. But it’s VERY VERY
doable, and I think would make a great online Web app that I can host here
at work. People go to the web site...and BHAM...they print off a new
unknown...or 20. <BR><BR>Interested??? I would need some help
writing the specs.... And I may contact FAI to see if there’s a soft
copy of the manuevers so they can be imported. Of course the follow up
add on is something that auto generates the
Aresti...<BR><BR>Thoughts?<BR><BR><BR>On 11/21/07 6:04 PM, "Verne Koester"
<verne@twmi.rr.com> wrote:<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><FONT face=Arial>Geez, Mark, I'm
all a' flutter....<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>Truth is, I
help Andrew because I enjoy it. I used to coach him a few years back, but
now he coaches me. We did spend a fair amount of time getting ready but I
enjoyed every minute of it. Andrew's a great kid from great parents (where
the credit REALLY belongs). What's not to like? <BR></FONT><FONT
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face=Arial>Thanks,<BR>Verne<BR></FONT><FONT
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face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR><B>From:</B> Mark
Atwood <A
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<BR> <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 19, 2007 2:06
PM<BR> <BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] WC
'07<BR> <BR><BR>While I want to congratulate Quique, Jason
and Andrew over and over and over again...I feel remiss that
there’s been little mention of their callers. I don’t know
who called for Quique or Jason, But I know the Verne Koester was
Andrew’s caller and he put in such an incredible amount of time
helping him prepare that it seems negligent not to include him in
the hoopla. <BR><BR>I knew Verne would be the first to defer
all of the glory for Andrew, but for those that know how hard
these two have worked for this opportunity.... Twice daily
practice routine, Verne creating new Unknowns every day, hours and
hours of critique, all in a very selfless effort to take a gifted
set of thumbs to the next level...well, you have to step back and
give a few claps for Verne as well.<BR><BR>I’m extremely proud of
Andrew...someone that I’ve had the privilege of helping through the
pattern ranks. But I also have huge respect and congrats to
Verne for the effort he made (along with a myriad of other
supporters) to help him get there. <BR><BR>I KNOW that Jason and
Quique have their own “Verne” to thank and I hope someone jumps on
here and lets us all know who they are, so that we can show them
equal appreciation for their efforts.<BR><BR>-Mark<BR><BR><BR>On
11/19/07 1:19 PM, "Earl Haury" <ejhaury@comcast.net>
wrote:<BR><BR> <BR></FONT></SPAN>
<BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><FONT face=Arial>Made it
home from Argentina this morning, a bit tired from a long drive
yesterday, a long wait at the airport, and a long nite on the
airplane. The WC was completely worth the effort. The posts so
far do not begin to describe the huge amount of work, the superb
flying, and awesome accomplishment of Team USA!<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>The Team
spent huge amounts of time at the practice field flying in
conditions (wind, sun, dark, cold) most wouldn't even try. Each flight
was generally critiqued by a number of Team members &
supporters as these guys worked together to eliminate every
possible flaw. There was total focus and commitment within and
for the Team. Team Manager Al Glenn took care of administrative
details - including leaving the hotel around 5:00am to ensure
transmitters were impounded on time, handling "information just in
time" logistics and essentially doing everything but sleeping.
(Don't give him too much grief when the photos of him sleeping
at the banquet publish.)<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>The
conditions during the prelims were extremely difficult. Cross
winds in or out each day that approached 30mph at times. It was
amazing how many "unknown" folks flew exceptionally well and
that all of the "know" folks flew even better. Not only were
these guys flying in strong wind - but it was usually quite cold
in the morning sessions as well. The semi's and finals were also
windy - but not as bad and it got warmer, downright hot for the
finals. <BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>Bad luck
and a great performance by BPLR prevented Team USA from winning
the Team Championship - BPLR flew one flight during the only
calm period (maybe half an hour) of the prelims and did a very
good job of capitalizing upon the opportunity. Jason was up next
- but a delay to allow for an airliner departure was long enough
for the wind to return before Jason flew. This was enough to
swing the advantage to the French and give them a well fought win
- Team USA can be proud of second, it was a hard fought battle
with great flying on each side, with the Japanese team always in
the mix.<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>All of
the flying in the finals was exceptional. Quique was
consistently solid, Jason likewise (and winning his first WC
round), and Andrew flying superbly. In hindsight - it may be
that the "in-close" style Andrew flew to good advantage in the
prelims / semi's that may not have scored as well in the finals
without the strong crosswind. <BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>There
were a lot of electrics (mostly Hacker) as well as glow (mostly
YS) and neither had an advantage / disadvantage in the strong
winds. Either propulsion is totally viable, Sebastiano even flew
a Hacker with contra-rotating props in the finals - good power
and excellent braking.<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>The
highlight of the experience occurred while standing next to
Quique when he was announced as the winner (he didn't know he'd
won). I'll remember his emotion forever - he really wanted this!
<BR></FONT><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT
face=Arial>So - second WC Team placing is good, every Team
member making the Finals is outstanding, everyone in the top 8
is exceptional, and a USA Team member winning the World
Championship is more than great! The accomplishments of 2007 Team USA
are HUGE!! Congratulations to Quique, Jason, and Andrew - we
couldn't be more proud or appreciative of your accomplishments!!
Thanks to the callers who worked as hard as the pilots,
the TM's that handled logistics, and everyone who contribute to
an exceptional performance by Team USA.<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT
face=Arial>Earl<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR> <BR>
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