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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kieth-I have a cut of sorts, of the basic maneuvers
with all elements it is made up of, anf then the variations . I'll see if I can
find it--did it while working with TN on the Sequences a couple years ago. If f
I can I will send you a sample , I thenk it ran 50 some pages in
Xcell.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jerry</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>LVN> "A maneuver may have more than one base
class."</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>KB> Oooh oooh, finally a usage for multiple
inheritance. Guess this won't be written in Java.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you don't understand this you're not geeky
enough. Just ignore it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keith</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:08
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mark,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Consider how to handle manuvers with
options. I think the easiest way is to treat all options as different
manuvers in the database.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would build the app to separate the database
and rules engine from the actual manuver description list. The cross index
between the app and the manuver descriptions is an index key. This
allows the system to expand to produce a list of manuver descriptions,
aresti diagrams, calling cards each as a different report output from the
same app.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Your approach to annotate each manuver entry in
the database with attributes is a good one. I'd add a "type" attribute
that may be thought of as a base class. this would identify manuvers
according to their basic types: loops, rolls, humpty, half squares, stall
turns. A manuver may have more than one base class. This will
improve the results by letting you define a rule to prevent too many humpty
turn arounds in the same sequence, for example.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Let the target total KF be an input so you can
produce sequences for all levels</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This is a fun application of real work
skills.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 13, 2007
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'07</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Verne,<BR><BR>I often have staff that need a fake
practice project to work on to learn a new technology or the like, and I
was thinking that a random Unknowns generator would not be all that
challenging and would provide the team some value. I figure if I
plan it now...might have a shot at having something useful for ‘09 and
maybe even for this summer’s Nats practice for Andy.<BR><BR>Here’s the
thought...All the manuevers from the catalog get loaded into a database.
Each is assigned a number of attribute... K-Factor,
Center/endbox, Entry Altitude, Exit Altitude, Entry orientation, Exit
Orientation, manuever class, etc etc etc. Then it’s simply a matter
of writing a rules engine...given the Entry Altitude, current K-factor,
etc, you query for a subset of maneuvers that meet the criteria, and
select one randomly. Of course there are additional checks...no more
than X # of K-5s, etc....no more than 1 from a given class...etc.
But it’s VERY VERY doable, and I think would make a great online Web
app that I can host here at work. People go to the web site...and
BHAM...they print off a new unknown...or 20. <BR><BR>Interested???
I would need some help writing the specs.... And I may contact
FAI to see if there’s a soft copy of the manuevers so they can be
imported. Of course the follow up add on is something that auto
generates the Aresti...<BR><BR>Thoughts?<BR><BR><BR>On 11/21/07 6:04 PM,
"Verne Koester" <verne@twmi.rr.com> wrote:<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><FONT face=Arial>Geez, Mark,
I'm all a' flutter....<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>Truth is, I
help Andrew because I enjoy it. I used to coach him a few years back,
but now he coaches me. We did spend a fair amount of time getting ready
but I enjoyed every minute of it. Andrew's a great kid from great
parents (where the credit REALLY belongs). What's not to like?
<BR></FONT><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT
face=Arial>Thanks,<BR>Verne<BR></FONT><FONT
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face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR><B>From:</B> Mark
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<BR> <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 19, 2007 2:06
PM<BR> <BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] WC
'07<BR> <BR><BR>While I want to congratulate Quique, Jason
and Andrew over and over and over again...I feel remiss that
there’s been little mention of their callers. I don’t know
who called for Quique or Jason, But I know the Verne Koester was
Andrew’s caller and he put in such an incredible amount of time
helping him prepare that it seems negligent not to include him
in the hoopla. <BR><BR>I knew Verne would be the
first to defer all of the glory for Andrew, but for those that
know how hard these two have worked for this opportunity....
Twice daily practice routine, Verne creating new Unknowns every
day, hours and hours of critique, all in a very selfless effort
to take a gifted set of thumbs to the next level...well, you have to
step back and give a few claps for Verne as well.<BR><BR>I’m
extremely proud of Andrew...someone that I’ve had the privilege
of helping through the pattern ranks. But I also have huge
respect and congrats to Verne for the effort he made (along with
a myriad of other supporters) to help him get there. <BR><BR>I
KNOW that Jason and Quique have their own “Verne” to thank and I
hope someone jumps on here and lets us all know who they are, so
that we can show them equal appreciation for their
efforts.<BR><BR>-Mark<BR><BR><BR>On 11/19/07 1:19 PM, "Earl
Haury" <ejhaury@comcast.net>
wrote:<BR><BR> <BR></FONT></SPAN>
<BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><FONT face=Arial>Made it
home from Argentina this morning, a bit tired from a long
drive yesterday, a long wait at the airport, and a long nite
on the airplane. The WC was completely worth the effort. The
posts so far do not begin to describe the huge amount of work,
the superb flying, and awesome accomplishment of Team
USA!<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>The
Team spent huge amounts of time at the practice field flying
in conditions (wind, sun, dark, cold) most wouldn't even try.
Each flight was generally critiqued by a number of Team
members & supporters as these guys worked together to
eliminate every possible flaw. There was total focus and
commitment within and for the Team. Team Manager Al Glenn took
care of administrative details - including leaving the hotel
around 5:00am to ensure transmitters were impounded on time,
handling "information just in time" logistics and essentially
doing everything but sleeping. (Don't give him too much grief
when the photos of him sleeping at the banquet
publish.)<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>The
conditions during the prelims were extremely difficult. Cross
winds in or out each day that approached 30mph at times. It
was amazing how many "unknown" folks flew exceptionally well
and that all of the "know" folks flew even better. Not only
were these guys flying in strong wind - but it was usually
quite cold in the morning sessions as well. The semi's and
finals were also windy - but not as bad and it got warmer,
downright hot for the finals. <BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>Bad
luck and a great performance by BPLR prevented Team USA from
winning the Team Championship - BPLR flew one flight during
the only calm period (maybe half an hour) of the prelims and
did a very good job of capitalizing upon the opportunity.
Jason was up next - but a delay to allow for an airliner
departure was long enough for the wind to return before Jason
flew. This was enough to swing the advantage to the French and
give them a well fought win - Team USA can be proud of second,
it was a hard fought battle with great flying on each side,
with the Japanese team always in the mix.<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>All of
the flying in the finals was exceptional. Quique was
consistently solid, Jason likewise (and winning his first WC
round), and Andrew flying superbly. In hindsight - it may be
that the "in-close" style Andrew flew to good advantage in the
prelims / semi's that may not have scored as well in the
finals without the strong crosswind. <BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>There
were a lot of electrics (mostly Hacker) as well as glow
(mostly YS) and neither had an advantage / disadvantage in the
strong winds. Either propulsion is totally viable, Sebastiano
even flew a Hacker with contra-rotating props in the finals -
good power and excellent braking.<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>The
highlight of the experience occurred while standing next to
Quique when he was announced as the winner (he didn't know
he'd won). I'll remember his emotion forever - he really
wanted this! <BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>So -
second WC Team placing is good, every Team member making the
Finals is outstanding, everyone in the top 8 is exceptional,
and a USA Team member winning the World Championship is more
than great! The accomplishments of 2007 Team USA are HUGE!!
Congratulations to Quique, Jason, and Andrew - we couldn't be
more proud or appreciative of your accomplishments!!
Thanks to the callers who worked as hard as the pilots,
the TM's that handled logistics, and everyone who contribute
to an exceptional performance by Team USA.<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT
face=Arial>Earl<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR> <BR>
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