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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The same place! :-)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A
href="http://www.idseng.com">http://www.idseng.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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<A title=bob@toprudder.com href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">Bob Richards</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 15, 2007 8:42
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Gov'ment
Job.......was: Re: Off topic</DIV>
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<DIV>My son started out playing violin in the 1st grade. Then he took piano
lessons, then started playing the baritone in the school band. Now he is fully
engrossed in guitar. He can play the guitar as good as he can fly, too!
:-) I like to think that I know where he picked up his flying skills
from, but don't have a clue where the music talent came from.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bob R.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Jay Marshall <lightfoot@sc.rr.com></I></B>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
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reply. I play(ed) a bassoon, baritone horn, bass harmonica, and classical
guitar. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
[mailto:</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Tommy
Scarmardo<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday,
December 13, 2007 7:42 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">NSRCA Mailing
List</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Gov'ment Job.......was: Re: Off topic</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hey Eddie,</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">How are you ? I never had a Country
Gentleman but I did own a Gretsch</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Tennesean for a while, sort of a
smaller version of the C-G with a single </SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">cutaway body. No other guitar sounds
quite like a Gretsch.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">It's surprising how many r/c pilots
have a musical background. Two other</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">musicians in the band I played in for
16 years flew r/c. If I'm not mistaken </SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">BW still plays in a band in
Temple.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Tommy S<BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Eddie Batchelor
<perkinsrx@centurytel.net></SPAN></I></B>
wrote:</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Well I’m gonna
change genre of music slightly BUT My Uncle has his original ’62 Gretsch
Country Gentleman “Chet Atkins” signature guitar. According to
Guerin(spelling) in <u1:City u2:st="on"><u1:place
u2:st="on">Nashville</u1:place></u1:City> it’s 1 of only 6 known remaining
guitars. But it ain’t worth $49,000 especially since he
had it totally restored – new gold plating and mother of pearl inlay – new
pick-ups and all the trimmings. I told him he was crazy to touch it BUT he
said it was his guitar and he wanted it like new again. He said he bought
it to play and did not care if the restoration would lessen it’s value
‘cuz he was never gonna sell it anyway.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I wanted to say
well I might sell it after you’re gone BUT I wasn’t brave
enough to say it <G></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of <u1:PersonName
u2:st="on"></SPAN></B>Tommy Scarmardo</u1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, December 13, 2007
3:38 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
<u1:PersonName u2:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</u1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Gov'ment Job.......was: Re: Off topic</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Please don't
remind me of guitars I've owned over the years and
should</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">have
kept....'57 Tele with maple neck, '67 and '69 Stratacasters, '70
Jazzmaster,</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">'79 25/50
anniversary Les Paul, etc, etc.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Enough money
there to retire on. I saw a '67 Strat for sale at Rockin'
Robins</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">for
$49,000 !!!<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">"george w. kennie"
<geobet@gis.net></SPAN></I></B>
wrote:</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">That 335 is
worth a fortune today.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<A title=dwaynenancy@suddenlink.net
href="mailto:dwaynenancy@suddenlink.net">Dwayne Brown</A>
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing
List'</A> </SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:51 AM</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Gov'ment Job.......was: Re: Off
topic</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’m gonna
listen to my ES335 thru my Princeton amp I bought in 1964 then maybe
I’ll plug into my Fender Dual Reverb with my PRS or my Les Paul Jr I
bought in 1957. Tone!!!
Dwayne</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>wgalligan<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, December 13, 2007
10:17 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
<u1:PersonName u2:st="on">NSRCA Mailing
List</u1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Gov'ment Job.......was: Re: Off topic</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Once again...
Gray bends the envelope on his vast infinite wealth of useful
knowledge.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks for
that audio bit of brain food.... now back to my $99.00 12 Gauge
practice amp. (Wishing that I had a full blown tube amp
from the 70's)</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<A title=gfowler@raytheon.com
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have
tried to stay out of this as it could become old guy vs young guy,
but then again I am no longer young.....</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As an ex muscian I have
recorded about 25 original songs and the interesting thing is that
my recording time frame spans the cross over of analog to digital,
that is 1985 to about 1995.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Led Zeps
"Whole Lotta Love" is not record groove bleed over, but is called
tape print through. That's where a freshly recorded magnetic
impression transfers through the back side of the tape onto a place
it does not belong-one reel revolution. To alleviate this tapes are
to be stored "tails out" which the recording engineer obviously
forgot to do...in 1969. So that has to be the coolest recording
accident of all time. </SPAN></FONT><BR><BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have
known many home listening "audiophiles" in my life, some I would
call friends. I was always amazed at the money that they spent on
their home systems that was at times more than what it would cost to
put in a "studio" system. As a professional musician and a
professional sound man, the entire idea of recording in a studio was
to make your guitar or the drums sound like YOUR guitar, or your
drums. When I stood in front of my <u1:City u2:st="on"><u1:place
u2:st="on">Marshall</u1:place></u1:City> tube amp cranked up to 11,
I wanted that sound on my final product-be it a record or digital
recording. (Pehaps I will discuss guitar tube amps and the reason
for their existence at a later date). I cannot begin to explain how
difficult that task actually is. I will say it is much easier now
days.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Analog recoding studios
really sounded good. 2" wide 24 track tape spinning at 30 inches per
second. That is what it took to keep the tape noise level low and to
get the most accurate reproduction AND each machine and tape brand
had to be calibrated before each recording session to ensure
accuracy. Remember, what you are listening to is what the muscian
wants you to hear, so audiophiles and listeners do not even get a
vote yet on sound quality.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The 2" tape
24 track "Master"changed my guitar sound a bit. Then that was
mixed down to stereo 1/2 track 1/4" tape format called "Half Track
Master". That change my guitar sound a bit more, but still okay. The
Half Track Master then is sent to a pressing plant to make the
actual vinyl record. First you had to find a pay an expert
"Master-er" to get to vinyl. This guy held you and your recording by
the Nards. Why? Because analog vinyl technolgy was so screwed up.
The Half track master that sounded great in the recording studio had
to be Re-equalized by this record master-er to compensate for his
equipment and how he knew it would change your recording-that you
just spent $5000 on. It also had to be compressed (musically not
like MP3-more later) so it would not violate groove and needle
physical capabilities. If the Master-man sucked or did not care, so
did your record. If you were a big time rock star (I was not), then
you could hire Bob Ludwig, and he would make 5-6 wax pressings so
the musician could hear what he changed and choose what they liked
best. Me I had to take what I could get. In reality very few
muscians ever approved of their vinyl recordings because they
sounded so different from what they put down in the
studio.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Yet old
audiophiles with their Harmonically distorted tube amps and super
crappy damping factors, needles that once again change the sound and
wear the grooves down, changing the sound, and worst of all
"colored" speakers tailored so any fool got a decent balance of bass
and highs, claim superiority-calling this "warmth".</SPAN></FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Digital Mixers, with
digital recording and digital media by far produce the truest
reproduction of what the muscian intended. What I discovered when I
recorded digital was that what used to sound "full-warm" was in fact
much less accurate. The "full-warm" sound that was missing was
harmonic crap that filled up the spaces in the mix. What you could
then do with digital is add more musical parts to fill the gaps and
you could hear all the detail. Listen to Led Zep records, then
listen to a Led Zep CD which was taken straight from the Half Track
stereo master. One thing that you will notice right away on CD is
how much reverb is present on the CD that you cannot hear on a vinyl
record. I used to think as I bought CDS that the CD has reverb added
on top of the original recording. Not so, it is just that it is 2X
louder because the vinyl cannot reproduce such a subtle
sound.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Digital compression like
MP3 .....is DATA compression that is uncompressed before it becomes
ear capable analog. Records "Squashed" compressed music volume for
needle physical reasons, Radio uses "infinite" volume compression-to
appear louder than other stations and to keep from violating
broadcast bandwidth-even worse....but hey, my brother thinks radio
sounds great...he must be an audiophile.....
</SPAN></FONT><BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Also...On Monday I am
going back to the recording studio..first time in 12 years. I am
making the studio pull out and dust off their antique 1/2 track
analog machine (an the studio had to calibrate it-as usual). I have
about 10-11 songs that were mastered a on 1/2 track tape and guess
what..I and going to burn some digital copies. My first album was so
F-up by the vinyl record that I look forward to hearing what I
actually recorded in 1985......</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Merry Christmas Pattern
dudes........ <BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Senior Principal Chemical
Engineer<BR>Radomes and Specialty Apertures<BR>Technical Staff
Composites Engineering<BR>Raytheon</SPAN></FONT> </DIV></DIV></DIV>
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tube amp is desireable to most people, it is, in fact, a type of
distortion. <BR> <BR>I have a collection of vinyl, but prefer
to use CDs. Kinda hard to keep the needle from skipping while
driving to work. :-) <BR> <BR>Remember the one Led Zepplin
song where the adjacent grooves "bled" over when the album was
pressed? Never would have happened with digital. ;-) <BR>
<BR>Bob R. <BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
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<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings color=navy size=2><SPAN
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still MUCH better than any CD. Also one must have tubes for the
warmth that transistors can never match.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT
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