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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Speaking of the Strat, a long ago boyfriend of my
Daughter's left a 60's vintage Strat at my house for a few months (this was back
in the 70's) and every now and again I would pull it out and play it and after a
while I discovered that I didn't like the action. Never could figure out what
all the raves were about. I had a Birdland and wasn't all that cranked up over
that either, but it was valuable. I traded it for a second hand Fender Rhodes
keyboard which I ended up giving away. Lost a bundle on that fiasco.Speaking of
Classicals and Electrics I currently own 2 electrified cutaway Classicals (I
love the Cordoba) and I dont play classical, I play Jazzzzz !!!! Yeahhh !! "20's
to 80's Standards. The stuff you guys are talking about AIN'T music. It's some
kind of unregulated noise (now you know how old I am ). Even the lyrics
don't rhyme. Where's the artistry in that??? [ <EM>That ought to start
some kind of war ]</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=Arial size=2>G.</FONT></EM></DIV>
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<DIV>Please don't remind me of guitars I've owned over the years and
should</DIV>
<DIV>have kept....'57 Tele with maple neck, '67 and '69 Stratacasters, '70
Jazzmaster,</DIV>
<DIV>'79 25/50 anniversary Les Paul, etc, etc.</DIV>
<DIV>Enough money there to retire on. I saw a '67 Strat for sale at Rockin'
Robins</DIV>
<DIV>for $49,000 !!!<BR><BR><B><I>"george w. kennie" <<A
href="mailto:geobet@gis.net">geobet@gis.net</A>></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That 335 is worth a fortune today.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 13, 2007
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’m gonna listen
to my ES335 thru my Princeton amp I bought in 1964 then maybe I’ll plug
into my Fender Dual Reverb with my PRS or my Les Paul Jr I bought in 1957.
Tone!!! Dwayne</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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Gray bends the envelope on his vast infinite wealth of useful
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks for that
audio bit of brain food.... now back to my $99.00 12 Gauge practice
amp. (Wishing that I had a full blown tube amp from the
70's)</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">I have
tried to stay out of this as it could become old guy vs young guy, but
then again I am no longer young.....</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">As an ex muscian I have
recorded about 25 original songs and the interesting thing is that my
recording time frame spans the cross over of analog to digital, that is
1985 to about 1995.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Led Zeps
"Whole Lotta Love" is not record groove bleed over, but is called tape
print through. That's where a freshly recorded magnetic impression
transfers through the back side of the tape onto a place it does not
belong-one reel revolution. To alleviate this tapes are to be stored
"tails out" which the recording engineer obviously forgot to do...in
1969. So that has to be the coolest recording accident of all time.
</SPAN></FONT><BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">I have known many home
listening "audiophiles" in my life, some I would call friends. I was
always amazed at the money that they spent on their home systems that
was at times more than what it would cost to put in a "studio" system.
As a professional musician and a professional sound man, the entire idea
of recording in a studio was to make your guitar or the drums sound like
YOUR guitar, or your drums. When I stood in front of my Marshall tube
amp cranked up to 11, I wanted that sound on my final product-be it a
record or digital recording. (Pehaps I will discuss guitar tube amps and
the reason for their existence at a later date). I cannot begin to
explain how difficult that task actually is. I will say it is much
easier now days.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Analog
recoding studios really sounded good. 2" wide 24 track tape spinning at
30 inches per second. That is what it took to keep the tape noise level
low and to get the most accurate reproduction AND each machine and tape
brand had to be calibrated before each recording session to ensure
accuracy. Remember, what you are listening to is what the muscian wants
you to hear, so audiophiles and listeners do not even get a vote yet on
sound quality.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">The 2" tape 24 track
"Master"changed my guitar sound a bit. Then that was mixed down to
stereo 1/2 track 1/4" tape format called "Half Track Master". That
change my guitar sound a bit more, but still okay. The Half Track Master
then is sent to a pressing plant to make the actual vinyl record. First
you had to find a pay an expert "Master-er" to get to vinyl. This guy
held you and your recording by the Nards. Why? Because analog vinyl
technolgy was so screwed up. The Half track master that sounded great in
the recording studio had to be Re-equalized by this record master-er to
compensate for his equipment and how he knew it would change your
recording-that you just spent $5000 on. It also had to be compressed
(musically not like MP3-more later) so it would not violate groove and
needle physical capabilities. If the Master-man sucked or did not care,
so did your record. If you were a big time rock star (I was not), then
you could hire Bob Ludwig, and he would make 5-6 wax pressings so the
musician could hear what he changed and choose what they liked best. Me
I had to take what I could get. In reality very few muscians ever
approved of their vinyl recordings because they sounded so different
from what they put down in the studio.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif"> Yet old
audiophiles with their Harmonically distorted tube amps and super crappy
damping factors, needles that once again change the sound and wear the
grooves down, changing the sound, and worst of all "colored" speakers
tailored so any fool got a decent balance of bass and highs, claim
superiority-calling this "warmth".</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Digital Mixers, with
digital recording and digital media by far produce the truest
reproduction of what the muscian intended. What I discovered when I
recorded digital was that what used to sound "full-warm" was in fact
much less accurate. The "full-warm" sound that was missing was harmonic
crap that filled up the spaces in the mix. What you could then do with
digital is add more musical parts to fill the gaps and you could hear
all the detail. Listen to Led Zep records, then listen to a Led
Zep CD which was taken straight from the Half Track stereo master. One
thing that you will notice right away on CD is how much reverb is
present on the CD that you cannot hear on a vinyl record. I used to
think as I bought CDS that the CD has reverb added on top of the
original recording. Not so, it is just that it is 2X louder because the
vinyl cannot reproduce such a subtle sound.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Digital compression
like MP3 .....is DATA compression that is uncompressed before it becomes
ear capable analog. Records "Squashed" compressed music volume for
needle physical reasons, Radio uses "infinite" volume compression-to
appear louder than other stations and to keep from violating broadcast
bandwidth-even worse....but hey, my brother thinks radio sounds
great...he must be an audiophile..... </SPAN></FONT><BR><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Also...On Monday I am
going back to the recording studio..first time in 12 years. I am making
the studio pull out and dust off their antique 1/2 track analog machine
(an the studio had to calibrate it-as usual). I have about 10-11 songs
that were mastered a on 1/2 track tape and guess what..I and going to
burn some digital copies. My first album was so F-up by the vinyl record
that I look forward to hearing what I actually recorded in
1985......</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Merry Christmas Pattern
dudes........ <BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Senior Principal Chemical
Engineer<BR>Radomes and Specialty Apertures<BR>Technical Staff
Composites Engineering<BR>Raytheon</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><BR>IMHO, although the "warmth" of a
tube amp is desireable to most people, it is, in fact, a type of
distortion. <BR> <BR>I have a collection of vinyl, but prefer to
use CDs. Kinda hard to keep the needle from skipping while driving to
work. :-) <BR> <BR>Remember the one Led Zepplin song where the
adjacent grooves "bled" over when the album was pressed? Never would
have happened with digital. ;-) <BR> <BR>Bob R.
<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic"><BR>twtaylor
<twtaylor@ftc-i.net></SPAN></I></B> wrote: <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
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obviously never heard a good system then Matt. </SPAN></FONT><FONT
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<BR><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Vinyl is still
MUCH better than any CD. Also one must have tubes for the warmth that
transistors can never match.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
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