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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Don't feel bad, Yngwie Malmsteen plays classical
guitar! Of course he also plays electric guitar... <VBG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A
href="http://www.idseng.com">http://www.idseng.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=lightfoot@sc.rr.com href="mailto:lightfoot@sc.rr.com">Jay
Marshall</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:12
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Gov'ment
Job.......was: Re: Off topic</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Here’s a real nerd
reply. I play(ed) a bassoon, baritone horn, bass harmonica, and classical
guitar. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Brush Script MT'">Jay
</SPAN></FONT></I></B><B><I><FONT face="Brush Script MT" color=navy
size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Brush Script MT'">Marshall</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT
color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
[mailto:</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Tommy
Scarmardo<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday,
December 13, 2007 7:42 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">NSRCA Mailing
List</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Gov'ment
Job.......was: Re: Off topic</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hey Eddie,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">How are you ? I never had a Country
Gentleman but I did own a Gretsch</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Tennesean for a while, sort of a smaller
version of the C-G with a single </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">cutaway body. No other guitar sounds
quite like a Gretsch.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">It's surprising how many r/c pilots have
a musical background. Two other</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">musicians in the band I played in for 16
years flew r/c. If I'm not mistaken </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">BW still plays in a band in
Temple.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Tommy S<BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Eddie Batchelor
<perkinsrx@centurytel.net></SPAN></I></B> wrote:</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Well
I’m gonna change genre of music slightly BUT My Uncle has his original ’62
Gretsch Country Gentleman “Chet Atkins” signature guitar. According to
Guerin(spelling) in <U1:CITY u2:st="on"><U1:PLACE
u2:st="on">Nashville</U1:PLACE></U1:CITY> it’s 1 of only 6 known remaining
guitars. But it ain’t worth $49,000 especially since he
had it totally restored – new gold plating and mother of pearl inlay – new
pick-ups and all the trimmings. I told him he was crazy to touch it BUT he
said it was his guitar and he wanted it like new again. He said he bought it
to play and did not care if the restoration would lessen it’s value ‘cuz he
was never gonna sell it anyway.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I
wanted to say well I might sell it after you’re gone BUT I
wasn’t brave enough to say it <G></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Eddie</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of <U1:PERSONNAME
u2:st="on"></SPAN></B>Tommy Scarmardo</U1:PERSONNAME><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:38
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <U1:PERSONNAME
u2:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</U1:PERSONNAME><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Gov'ment Job.......was: Re: Off topic</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Please don't remind me of guitars I've
owned over the years and should</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">have kept....'57 Tele with maple neck,
'67 and '69 Stratacasters, '70 Jazzmaster,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">'79 25/50 anniversary Les Paul, etc,
etc.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Enough money there to retire on. I saw
a '67 Strat for sale at Rockin' Robins</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">for $49,000
!!!<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">"george
w. kennie" <geobet@gis.net></SPAN></I></B>
wrote:</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">That 335 is worth
a fortune today.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original
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<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=dwaynenancy@suddenlink.net
href="mailto:dwaynenancy@suddenlink.net">Dwayne Brown</A>
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing List'</A>
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:51 AM</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Gov'ment Job.......was: Re: Off
topic</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial
color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’m gonna
listen to my ES335 thru my Princeton amp I bought in 1964 then maybe
I’ll plug into my Fender Dual Reverb with my PRS or my Les Paul Jr I
bought in 1957. Tone!!! Dwayne</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>wgalligan<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, December 13, 2007
10:17 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
<U1:PERSONNAME u2:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</U1:PERSONNAME><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Gov'ment Job.......was: Re: Off topic</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Once again...
Gray bends the envelope on his vast infinite wealth of useful
knowledge.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks for that
audio bit of brain food.... now back to my $99.00 12 Gauge practice
amp. (Wishing that I had a full blown tube amp from the
70's)</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<A title=gfowler@raytheon.com href="mailto:gfowler@raytheon.com">Gray
E Fowler</A> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Thursday, December 13, 2007 10:18
AM</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Gov'ment Job.......was: Re: Off
topic</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have tried
to stay out of this as it could become old guy vs young guy, but then
again I am no longer young.....</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As an ex
muscian I have recorded about 25 original songs and the interesting
thing is that my recording time frame spans the cross over of analog
to digital, that is 1985 to about 1995.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Led Zeps "Whole Lotta
Love" is not record groove bleed over, but is called tape print
through. That's where a freshly recorded magnetic impression transfers
through the back side of the tape onto a place it does not belong-one
reel revolution. To alleviate this tapes are to be stored "tails out"
which the recording engineer obviously forgot to do...in 1969. So that
has to be the coolest recording accident of all time.
</SPAN></FONT><BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have known many home
listening "audiophiles" in my life, some I would call friends. I was
always amazed at the money that they spent on their home systems that
was at times more than what it would cost to put in a "studio" system.
As a professional musician and a professional sound man, the entire
idea of recording in a studio was to make your guitar or the drums
sound like YOUR guitar, or your drums. When I stood in front of my
<U1:CITY u2:st="on"><U1:PLACE u2:st="on">Marshall</U1:PLACE></U1:CITY>
tube amp cranked up to 11, I wanted that sound on my final product-be
it a record or digital recording. (Pehaps I will discuss guitar tube
amps and the reason for their existence at a later date). I cannot
begin to explain how difficult that task actually is. I will say it is
much easier now days.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Analog
recoding studios really sounded good. 2" wide 24 track tape spinning
at 30 inches per second. That is what it took to keep the tape noise
level low and to get the most accurate reproduction AND each machine
and tape brand had to be calibrated before each recording session to
ensure accuracy. Remember, what you are listening to is what the
muscian wants you to hear, so audiophiles and listeners do not even
get a vote yet on sound quality.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The 2" tape
24 track "Master"changed my guitar sound a bit. Then that was
mixed down to stereo 1/2 track 1/4" tape format called "Half Track
Master". That change my guitar sound a bit more, but still okay. The
Half Track Master then is sent to a pressing plant to make the actual
vinyl record. First you had to find a pay an expert "Master-er" to get
to vinyl. This guy held you and your recording by the Nards. Why?
Because analog vinyl technolgy was so screwed up. The Half track
master that sounded great in the recording studio had to be
Re-equalized by this record master-er to compensate for his equipment
and how he knew it would change your recording-that you just spent
$5000 on. It also had to be compressed (musically not like MP3-more
later) so it would not violate groove and needle physical
capabilities. If the Master-man sucked or did not care, so did your
record. If you were a big time rock star (I was not), then you could
hire Bob Ludwig, and he would make 5-6 wax pressings so the musician
could hear what he changed and choose what they liked best. Me I had
to take what I could get. In reality very few muscians ever approved
of their vinyl recordings because they sounded so different from what
they put down in the studio.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Yet old
audiophiles with their Harmonically distorted tube amps and super
crappy damping factors, needles that once again change the sound and
wear the grooves down, changing the sound, and worst of all "colored"
speakers tailored so any fool got a decent balance of bass and highs,
claim superiority-calling this "warmth".</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Digital Mixers, with
digital recording and digital media by far produce the truest
reproduction of what the muscian intended. What I discovered when I
recorded digital was that what used to sound "full-warm" was in fact
much less accurate. The "full-warm" sound that was missing was
harmonic crap that filled up the spaces in the mix. What you could
then do with digital is add more musical parts to fill the gaps and
you could hear all the detail. Listen to Led Zep records, then
listen to a Led Zep CD which was taken straight from the Half Track
stereo master. One thing that you will notice right away on CD is how
much reverb is present on the CD that you cannot hear on a vinyl
record. I used to think as I bought CDS that the CD has reverb added
on top of the original recording. Not so, it is just that it is 2X
louder because the vinyl cannot reproduce such a subtle
sound.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Digital compression like
MP3 .....is DATA compression that is uncompressed before it becomes
ear capable analog. Records "Squashed" compressed music volume for
needle physical reasons, Radio uses "infinite" volume compression-to
appear louder than other stations and to keep from violating broadcast
bandwidth-even worse....but hey, my brother thinks radio sounds
great...he must be an audiophile..... </SPAN></FONT><BR><BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Also...On Monday I am
going back to the recording studio..first time in 12 years. I am
making the studio pull out and dust off their antique 1/2 track analog
machine (an the studio had to calibrate it-as usual). I have about
10-11 songs that were mastered a on 1/2 track tape and guess what..I
and going to burn some digital copies. My first album was so F-up by
the vinyl record that I look forward to hearing what I actually
recorded in 1985......</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Merry
Christmas Pattern dudes........ <BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Senior
Principal Chemical Engineer<BR>Radomes and Specialty
Apertures<BR>Technical Staff Composites
Engineering<BR>Raytheon</SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV></DIV>
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tube amp is desireable to most people, it is, in fact, a type of
distortion. <BR> <BR>I have a collection of vinyl, but prefer to
use CDs. Kinda hard to keep the needle from skipping while driving to
work. :-) <BR> <BR>Remember the one Led Zepplin song where the
adjacent grooves "bled" over when the album was pressed? Never would
have happened with digital. ;-) <BR> <BR>Bob R.
<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
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<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings color=navy size=2><SPAN
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still MUCH better than any CD. Also one must have tubes for the warmth
that transistors can never match.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
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