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<DIV><SPAN class=045173702-14122007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff>Like I said...you guys on the list are definitely surprising
me. Slipknot, Sepultura????? I would never have thought.....I don't even
have any of their stuff!!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=045173702-14122007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=045173702-14122007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff>Ok-now I have to admit it....RUSH are my heroes. I
'discovered' them in early high school. Even down here in
Oz!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=045173702-14122007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=045173702-14122007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff>And
then the list goes on! </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=045173702-14122007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=045173702-14122007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff>Tom</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=045173702-14122007><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff>P.S
( I was already flying R/C then too...a Compensator I seem to
recall)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ryan
Smith<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 14 December 2007 1:32 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'NSRCA
Mailing List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Musicians (off
topic)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Haha, you beat me to
it, Dave.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Slipknot and
Sepultura are easy to understand as well. Or maybe I listen to stuff that
really is ridiculously crazy.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</st1:PersonName>] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Dave<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, December 13, 2007 9:11
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> '<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName>'<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Musicians
(off topic)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ummm….I think you
both are right…<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ozzy singing is easy
to understand. Ozzy talking….that is an entirely different
situation.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dave<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</st1:PersonName>] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Mike Hester<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, December 13, 2007 6:07
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Musicians
(off topic)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ozzy is easy, try Slipknot or
Sepultura....</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-Mike</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message -----
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=jpavlick@idseng.com href="mailto:jpavlick@idseng.com">John Pavlick</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:22 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Musicians (off topic)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yeah, I agree. Besides, some of
us ride bikes too. That classifies us as musician/biker-trash/Pattern-nerds.
WTF? I wonder if Homeland security knows about
us...</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">John Pavlick<BR><A
href="http://www.idseng.com">http://www.idseng.com</A></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">BTW - I can understand
everything that Ozzy Osbourne says too! </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=gfowler@raytheon.com href="mailto:gfowler@raytheon.com">Gray E
Fowler</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Thursday, December 13, 2007 4:40 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Musicians (off
topic)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Tom</SPAN></FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I think that it is important
to note that your term "Pattern Nerd" is not only highly offensive to the
majority, but very applicable and accurate also. I, and all the rest of us
ex musicians can no way ever be termed a nerd, simply because our past
exploits are things that the true pattern nerds have only read about in
books.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Also-we need to make a
decision here. If anyone knows the answer to this it would be you.
Which is Keith Urban's real accent, the "Aussie bloke" style he uses
in interviews or that "Tennesee twang" he sings with?? Personally I think
they are both fake.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR><BR><BR>Gray
Fowler<BR>Senior Principal Chemical Engineer<BR>Radomes and Specialty
Apertures<BR>Technical Staff Composites
Engineering<BR>Raytheon</SPAN></FONT> <o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You guys are
starting to scare me!!</SPAN></FONT> <BR> <BR><FONT face=Arial
color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">One of the
reasons I have been very thin on the flying of late is because I have
'returned' to custom building Basses....I have a constant stream of
'musicians' in and out of my workshop on a daily basis ( after I finish my
'real' job!)</SPAN></FONT> <BR> <BR><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Now
I'm finding out that more and more of 'us' pattern nerds are either still
practicing musos or ex wanna be rockstars!</SPAN></FONT> <BR>
<BR><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yes I do have
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too! </SPAN></FONT> <BR> <BR><FONT face=Arial color=blue
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Gray E
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December 2007 4:47 AM<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>To:</SPAN></B>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName><B><SPAN
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Gov'ment Job.......was: Re: Off topic</SPAN></FONT><BR><BR><FONT
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do not count....when you visit your sister stop by and I will tell
you.....</SPAN></FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
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Apertures<BR>Technical Staff Composites
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>NICE
Dwayne....</SPAN></FONT> <BR> <FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>Yes Gray lets hear it for
the tube amp vs P/A amp. I wanna know.</SPAN></FONT>
<BR> <FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>WG</SPAN></FONT> <BR>-----
Original Message ----- <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>From:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:dwaynenancy@suddenlink.net">Dwayne Brown</A> <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>To:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing List'</A>
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, December
13, 2007 11:51 AM <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Gov'ment Job.......was: Re: Off topic <BR><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>I’m gonna
listen to my ES335 thru my Princeton amp I bought in 1964 then maybe I’ll
plug into my Fender Dual Reverb with my PRS or my Les Paul Jr I bought in
1957. Tone!!! Dwayne</SPAN></FONT> <BR> <FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR>-----Original
Message-----<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>From:</SPAN></B>
</SPAN></FONT><A
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size=2><SPAN
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>wgalligan<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, December 13, 2007
10:17 AM<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>To:</SPAN></B>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Gov'ment Job.......was: Re: Off topic</SPAN></FONT> <BR> <FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>Once again... Gray bends
the envelope on his vast infinite wealth of useful
knowledge.</SPAN></FONT> <BR> <FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>Thanks for that audio bit
of brain food.... now back to my $99.00 12 Gauge practice amp.
(Wishing that I had a full blown tube amp from the
70's)</SPAN></FONT> <BR> <FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>WG...</SPAN></FONT>
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----- <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>From:</SPAN></B>
</SPAN></FONT><A href="mailto:gfowler@raytheon.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Gray E
Fowler</SPAN></FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <B><SPAN
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10:18 AM</SPAN></FONT> <B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Gov'ment Job.......was: Re: Off topic</SPAN></FONT>
<BR> <FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR><BR>I have tried to stay
out of this as it could become old guy vs young guy, but then again I am
no longer young.....</SPAN></FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR><BR>As an ex muscian I
have recorded about 25 original songs and the interesting thing is that my
recording time frame spans the cross over of analog to digital, that is
1985 to about 1995.</SPAN></FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR><BR>Led Zeps "Whole Lotta
Love" is not record groove bleed over, but is called tape print through.
That's where a freshly recorded magnetic impression transfers through the
back side of the tape onto a place it does not belong-one reel revolution.
To alleviate this tapes are to be stored "tails out" which the recording
engineer obviously forgot to do...in 1969. So that has to be the coolest
recording accident of all time. <BR><BR>I have known many home listening
"audiophiles" in my life, some I would call friends. I was always amazed
at the money that they spent on their home systems that was at times more
than what it would cost to put in a "studio" system. As a professional
musician and a professional sound man, the entire idea of recording in a
studio was to make your guitar or the drums sound like YOUR guitar, or
your drums. When I stood in front of my <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Marshall</st1:City></st1:place> tube amp cranked up to 11, I
wanted that sound on my final product-be it a record or digital recording.
(Pehaps I will discuss guitar tube amps and the reason for their existence
at a later date). I cannot begin to explain how difficult that task
actually is. I will say it is much easier now days.</SPAN></FONT> <FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR><BR>Analog recoding
studios really sounded good. 2" wide 24 track tape spinning at 30 inches
per second. That is what it took to keep the tape noise level low and to
get the most accurate reproduction AND each machine and tape brand had to
be calibrated before each recording session to ensure accuracy. Remember,
what you are listening to is what the muscian wants you to hear, so
audiophiles and listeners do not even get a vote yet on sound
quality.</SPAN></FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>The 2" tape 24 track
"Master"changed my guitar sound a bit. Then that was mixed down to
stereo 1/2 track 1/4" tape format called "Half Track Master". That change
my guitar sound a bit more, but still okay. The Half Track Master then is
sent to a pressing plant to make the actual vinyl record. First you had to
find a pay an expert "Master-er" to get to vinyl. This guy held you and
your recording by the Nards. Why? Because analog vinyl technolgy was so
screwed up. The Half track master that sounded great in the recording
studio had to be Re-equalized by this record master-er to compensate for
his equipment and how he knew it would change your recording-that you just
spent $5000 on. It also had to be compressed (musically not like MP3-more
later) so it would not violate groove and needle physical capabilities. If
the Master-man sucked or did not care, so did your record. If you were a
big time rock star (I was not), then you could hire Bob Ludwig, and he
would make 5-6 wax pressings so the musician could hear what he changed
and choose what they liked best. Me I had to take what I could get. In
reality very few muscians ever approved of their vinyl recordings because
they sounded so different from what they put down in the
studio.</SPAN></FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>Yet old audiophiles with
their Harmonically distorted tube amps and super crappy damping factors,
needles that once again change the sound and wear the grooves down,
changing the sound, and worst of all "colored" speakers tailored so any
fool got a decent balance of bass and highs, claim superiority-calling
this "warmth".</SPAN></FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR><BR>Digital Mixers, with
digital recording and digital media by far produce the truest reproduction
of what the muscian intended. What I discovered when I recorded digital
was that what used to sound "full-warm" was in fact much less accurate.
The "full-warm" sound that was missing was harmonic crap that filled up
the spaces in the mix. What you could then do with digital is add more
musical parts to fill the gaps and you could hear all the detail.
Listen to Led Zep records, then listen to a Led Zep CD which was taken
straight from the Half Track stereo master. One thing that you will notice
right away on CD is how much reverb is present on the CD that you cannot
hear on a vinyl record. I used to think as I bought CDS that the CD has
reverb added on top of the original recording. Not so, it is just that it
is 2X louder because the vinyl cannot reproduce such a subtle
sound.</SPAN></FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR><BR>Digital compression
like MP3 .....is DATA compression that is uncompressed before it becomes
ear capable analog. Records "Squashed" compressed music volume for needle
physical reasons, Radio uses "infinite" volume compression-to appear
louder than other stations and to keep from violating broadcast
bandwidth-even worse....but hey, my brother thinks radio sounds great...he
must be an audiophile..... <BR><BR>Also...On Monday I am going back to the
recording studio..first time in 12 years. I am making the studio pull out
and dust off their antique 1/2 track analog machine (an the studio had to
calibrate it-as usual). I have about 10-11 songs that were mastered a on
1/2 track tape and guess what..I and going to burn some digital copies. My
first album was so F-up by the vinyl record that I look forward to
hearing what I actually recorded in 1985......</SPAN></FONT> <FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR><BR>Merry Christmas
Pattern dudes........ <BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Senior Principal Chemical
Engineer<BR>Radomes and Specialty Apertures<BR>Technical Staff Composites
Engineering<BR>Raytheon</SPAN></FONT> <o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><BR><BR>IMHO, although the "warmth" of a
tube amp is desireable to most people, it is, in fact, a type of
distortion. <BR><BR>I have a collection of vinyl, but prefer to use CDs.
Kinda hard to keep the needle from skipping while driving to work. :-)
<BR><BR>Remember the one Led Zepplin song where the adjacent grooves
"bled" over when the album was pressed? Never would have happened with
digital. ;-) <BR><BR>Bob R. <B><I><SPAN
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still MUCH better than any CD. Also one must have tubes for the warmth
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