<div>Yes Jerry,</div> <div>Charlie pretty much taught me everything I know (or knew) about pattern, although there were a half-dozen of us in KC that horse-raced the pattern circuit in the mid-90's under Charlie's watchful eye.</div> <div>Are you still in this area? If so, I'll run into you next season.</div> <div> </div> <div>Regards,</div> <div> </div> <div>John</div> <div><BR><BR><B><I>Gerald Gallagher <ggall@bellsouth.net></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3243" name=GENERATOR> <DIV><SPAN class=923055414-13122007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>John are you from the KC Mo. area & know Charlie Reed? IN fact I think you were more than a friend of Charlie's. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <div class=MsoAutoSig><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Jerry
Gallagher</I><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></div> <div class=MsoAutoSig><o:p> </o:p></div></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>John Ford<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 13, 2007 7:17 AM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Servo wire and battery questions<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV>Ed, Troy, Emory,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks very much for your help. I will go in that direction.</DIV> <DIV>Ed, I will look for your website, and discuss the reduncdant regulator off-line.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Regards,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>John</DIV> <DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Ed Alt
<ed_alt@hotmail.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content="Microsoft Word 10 (filtered)" name=Generator> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } P { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } SPAN.EmailStyle18 { COLOR: navy;
FONT-FAMILY: Arial } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> <DIV class=Section1> <DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">John:</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You should not need any kind of signal buffer. The main problem with long leads is excessive voltage drop due to higher resistance if the wire gauge is too light. Just use 22AWG and also avoid any tin plated connectors and you should be fine. Braided wire can be helpful, but isn’t really necessary most of the time. </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Re.
the use of either Lithium Ion or Lithium Polymer batteries, yes, you need a regulator. The Jaccio works really well. I also make regulators that are adjustable and fill a niche if you have a need for redundant batteries and want some additional flexibility in the setup. Either solution can work. And you are correct that a 480 mAh pack isn’t a lot of capacity, however with a good LiPo, there ability to deliver current on demand is more than adequate. Capacity for some number of flights is the bigger question. </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The electric powered pattern models use a very small amount of current in flight because of the virtual elimination of vibration from the power
plant, so you will see guys going all weekend with a pair of 2S480 packs. I still fly glow and use a pair of 730mAh packs.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ed</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>John Ford<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT:
bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, December 12, 2007 11:10 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [NSRCA-discussion] Servo wire and battery questions</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi all,</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Return-to-pattern after a long time questions...</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times
New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Question #1</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I used to use JR servo amplifiers on servos to eliminate noise and ensure strong signal over a long servo lead, especially to the back of the plane. Few of these, if any, are available commercially now, so I assume that there is little need for them any more? (Was never convinced they served a purpose to begin with, but I had never built a plane without them, and never had a problem)</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I will be using JR 955 RX and digital servos. </SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Maybe as simple an answer as "never an
issue, regardless of servo wire length".</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Maybe I should twist my wires?</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Question #2</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I used to use nothing other than large SR nicads for the flight pack, usually 1100mAh.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I notice that folks are now using Thunder Power Li-Po batteries,
some as small as 480mAh, and several around 800mAh. Doesn't seem to be much capacity to run six digitals.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I assume there is a Jaccio regulator to cut it down to 5V or so. Are Li-Pos reliable enough that only one cell is used, or are some folks using a SmartFly dual battery regulator that ignores one battery if it should fail?</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I appreciate any calibration on what the "standard" setup might be. </SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">John</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
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