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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That 335 is worth a fortune today.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:51
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
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my ES335 thru my Princeton amp I bought in 1964 then maybe I’ll plug into my
Fender Dual Reverb with my PRS or my Les Paul Jr I bought in 1957.
Tone!!! Dwayne</SPAN></FONT></P>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks for that audio bit of brain
food.... now back to my $99.00 12 Gauge practice amp. (Wishing that I
had a full blown tube amp from the 70's)</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">I have tried to stay out of
this as it could become old guy vs young guy, but then again I am no longer
young.....</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">As an ex muscian I have
recorded about 25 original songs and the interesting thing is that my
recording time frame spans the cross over of analog to digital, that is 1985
to about 1995.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Led Zeps "Whole Lotta Love"
is not record groove bleed over, but is called tape print through. That's
where a freshly recorded magnetic impression transfers through the back side
of the tape onto a place it does not belong-one reel revolution. To
alleviate this tapes are to be stored "tails out" which the recording
engineer obviously forgot to do...in 1969. So that has to be the coolest
recording accident of all time. </SPAN></FONT><BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">I have known
many home listening "audiophiles" in my life, some I would call friends. I
was always amazed at the money that they spent on their home systems that
was at times more than what it would cost to put in a "studio" system. As a
professional musician and a professional sound man, the entire idea of
recording in a studio was to make your guitar or the drums sound like YOUR
guitar, or your drums. When I stood in front of my Marshall tube amp cranked
up to 11, I wanted that sound on my final product-be it a record or digital
recording. (Pehaps I will discuss guitar tube amps and the reason for their
existence at a later date). I cannot begin to explain how difficult that
task actually is. I will say it is much easier now days.</SPAN></FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Analog recoding studios
really sounded good. 2" wide 24 track tape spinning at 30 inches per second.
That is what it took to keep the tape noise level low and to get the most
accurate reproduction AND each machine and tape brand had to be calibrated
before each recording session to ensure accuracy. Remember, what you are
listening to is what the muscian wants you to hear, so audiophiles and
listeners do not even get a vote yet on sound quality.</SPAN></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">The 2" tape 24 track
"Master"changed my guitar sound a bit. Then that was mixed down to
stereo 1/2 track 1/4" tape format called "Half Track Master". That change my
guitar sound a bit more, but still okay. The Half Track Master then is sent
to a pressing plant to make the actual vinyl record. First you had to find a
pay an expert "Master-er" to get to vinyl. This guy held you and your
recording by the Nards. Why? Because analog vinyl technolgy was so screwed
up. The Half track master that sounded great in the recording studio had to
be Re-equalized by this record master-er to compensate for his equipment and
how he knew it would change your recording-that you just spent $5000 on. It
also had to be compressed (musically not like MP3-more later) so it would
not violate groove and needle physical capabilities. If the Master-man
sucked or did not care, so did your record. If you were a big time rock star
(I was not), then you could hire Bob Ludwig, and he would make 5-6 wax
pressings so the musician could hear what he changed and choose what they
liked best. Me I had to take what I could get. In reality very few muscians
ever approved of their vinyl recordings because they sounded so different
from what they put down in the studio.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif"> Yet old audiophiles
with their Harmonically distorted tube amps and super crappy damping
factors, needles that once again change the sound and wear the grooves down,
changing the sound, and worst of all "colored" speakers tailored so any fool
got a decent balance of bass and highs, claim superiority-calling this
"warmth".</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Digital Mixers, with
digital recording and digital media by far produce the truest reproduction
of what the muscian intended. What I discovered when I recorded digital was
that what used to sound "full-warm" was in fact much less accurate. The
"full-warm" sound that was missing was harmonic crap that filled up the
spaces in the mix. What you could then do with digital is add more musical
parts to fill the gaps and you could hear all the detail. Listen to
Led Zep records, then listen to a Led Zep CD which was taken straight from
the Half Track stereo master. One thing that you will notice right away on
CD is how much reverb is present on the CD that you cannot hear on a vinyl
record. I used to think as I bought CDS that the CD has reverb added on top
of the original recording. Not so, it is just that it is 2X louder because
the vinyl cannot reproduce such a subtle sound.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Digital compression like
MP3 .....is DATA compression that is uncompressed before it becomes ear
capable analog. Records "Squashed" compressed music volume for needle
physical reasons, Radio uses "infinite" volume compression-to appear louder
than other stations and to keep from violating broadcast bandwidth-even
worse....but hey, my brother thinks radio sounds great...he must be an
audiophile..... </SPAN></FONT><BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Also...On Monday I am going
back to the recording studio..first time in 12 years. I am making the studio
pull out and dust off their antique 1/2 track analog machine (an the studio
had to calibrate it-as usual). I have about 10-11 songs that were mastered a
on 1/2 track tape and guess what..I and going to burn some digital copies.
My first album was so F-up by the vinyl record that I look forward to
hearing what I actually recorded in 1985......</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
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dudes........ <BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Senior Principal Chemical
Engineer<BR>Radomes and Specialty Apertures<BR>Technical Staff Composites
Engineering<BR>Raytheon</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><BR>IMHO, although the "warmth"
of a tube amp is desireable to most people, it is, in fact, a type of
distortion. <BR> <BR>I have a collection of vinyl, but prefer to use
CDs. Kinda hard to keep the needle from skipping while driving to work. :-)
<BR> <BR>Remember the one Led Zepplin song where the adjacent grooves
"bled" over when the album was pressed? Never would have happened with
digital. ;-) <BR> <BR>Bob R. <BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic"><BR>twtaylor
<twtaylor@ftc-i.net></SPAN></I></B> wrote: <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
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never heard a good system then Matt. </SPAN></FONT><FONT
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better than any CD. Also one must have tubes for the warmth that transistors
can never match.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
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