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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Presently FAI have only published the F3A '09 / '11
maneuver lists and Aresti. Bob Skinner expects the detailed maneuver
descriptions to publish soon. A committee of three has them nearly completed
(apparently some discussions ongoing regarding the words "hesitation" and
"pause"). Until then - we can only speculate, the first F09 Aresti shows rolls
reversed but the list doesn't say - the last (two snaps reversed) would seem
that the first snap would need to stop wings level, then the second snap - but
then, what's the definition of pause? I'll keep pinging the CIAM site and will
post a link to the list as soon as the new maneuver descriptions are
available.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Earl</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=patterndude@tx.rr.com href="mailto:patterndude@tx.rr.com">Lance Van
Nostrand</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 07, 2007 11:15
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] F3A 09
questions</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I also have a question for the F09: last manuver
- is there a specification for the pause length between the 2 snap
rolls? Is any pause (from 0-??) acceptable?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=tocdon@netscape.net
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 07, 2007 7:28
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] F3A 09
questions</DIV>
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<DIV>I think this is what we accept but not always the rule. For
example the end box half square loop on corner shows opposite roll
directions but they are optional from the last sequences.</DIV>
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<DIV>First maneuver of F09- do the rolls reverse during the loop? Tom
M did not think so when I asked him at the D3 championships.<BR><BR>Thanks
for any clarification.<BR><BR>Don<BR><BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: Matthew Frederick <mjfrederick@cox.net><BR>To:
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Nov 2007 8:18 pm<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] F3A 09
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the double immelmann wrong... Until I saw the aresti's. As far as I remember
there's a humpty in the P sequence that pretty much forces you to use the
whole box because of the maneuver that follows it... Haven't seen the F in
all its glory.
Matt
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> After going through the routines over the weekend, I had a few questions.
>
> Are all the humpty bumps end box that push or pull back into the box?
> Is there a description of the maneuvers online yet?
> Aresti still takes precedent?
>
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