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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle22><font size=2 color="#993366"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>I am of the opinion that the high score may be no more valid than the
low score and using an average reduces the effect. The only way to gain a
higher degree of accuracy is to use more judges.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle22><font size=2 color="#993366"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>True, a high difference between judges is cause for concern but often
times after judging several flights judges may not be able to recall the
specifics behind a posted score. Statistical evaluation by maneuver may be a
more valid assessment of judge training deficiencies rather than focusing on
individual judge’s performance. Sanctioning a judge only encourages him to pass
on judging opportunities.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle22><font size=2 color="#993366"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>Tossing out high or low scores encourages 7,8,9 scoring making it
excessively difficult to get a separation between pilots of comparable ability
not to mention the insult to the judge.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle22><font size=2 color="#993366"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>As for using all rounds, that is a very unforgiving environment. I could
probably live in this world but a zero could put any close competitor out of
the game even if it was a judging error.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle22><font size=2 color="#993366"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>I am not in D3 and should probably stay out of this but I have seen
judging disapproval since I began flying pattern in about 1980. This is why
some capable pilots elect to compete in Pylon instead of pattern.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle22><font size=2 color="#993366"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>Jim Hiller<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>Spokane WA.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Woodward, Jim<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, October 18, 2007
5:26 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] D3
Championship - Scoring System Overhaul</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Guys - <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3;
tab-stops:list 1.0in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>1.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Why do we average judge’s
scores together? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;
tab-stops:list 1.5in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>a.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The whole system is
predicated on judges being competent/consistent/correct/un-biased. If
this first rule is violated ranging from small to 100 point raw score
difference, the idea of now “averaging” the score also has no validity.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;
tab-stops:list 1.5in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>b.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Why not just let each
judge’s score stand as is, unaltered, and produce two normalized scores per
round?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;
tab-stops:list 1.5in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>c.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Averaging the scores
together may be doing a disservice to everyone.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;
tab-stops:list 1.5in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>d.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You would basically have
two sets of scores per round. IE you may end up with 1000 points on one card,
and an 800 on the other. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;
tab-stops:list 1.5in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>e.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This would identify
immediately any cause for concern.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;
tab-stops:list 1.5in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>f.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Would it provide an
immediate training tool back to our system of pilots, judges, and CD?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;
tab-stops:list 1.5in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>g.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Attempting to
“un-average” the scores to determine what happened takes place anyway on the
flight line, after the scores are printed. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3;
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>2.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Are we asking too much
from judges?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;
tab-stops:list 1.5in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>a.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Is applying downgrades,
then counting backwards from 10, in the context of “turnaround” pattern where
maneuvers can happen back-to-back quickly, too difficult across the full
spectrum of competitor/judges?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>3.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dropping Rounds:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;
tab-stops:list 1.5in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>a.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Is this still a good
idea? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;
tab-stops:list 1.5in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>b.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I wouldn’t mind dropping
one round, but it was explained to me last night that this is an artifact from
the days of when people would break a prop on touch-n-goes, and in general
lower equipment reliability. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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tab-stops:list 1.5in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>c.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In the age of higher
equipment reliability, is the ‘round-drop’ scenarios still good, left as is?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3;
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>4.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dropping Rounds – Take 2:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;
tab-stops:list 1.5in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>a.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In the context of point
#1, maybe we should be allowed to drop the lowest scored judge from each round,
versus the entire round. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>b.<font size=1
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</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Why should the pilot drop
the entire round, when one judge may have scored him 1000 points, and the other
800?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo3;
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</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If you end up with a tie
at the end, you just keep counting “1000’s” until the other pilot runs out –
tie is now “untied.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I hope some smart guys
can chime in on potential over-hauling idea. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Lisa & Larry<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 17, 2007
10:27 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] D3
Championship</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>OK…I probably shouldn’t start this, but I will…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>I haven’t read all the threads, but I have read the ones below in
this series.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>The NSRCA has already set the standard and a method to determine
judging bias and has held a NSRCA member accountable to this standard this year
and the AMA sanctioned the individual. This is fact….Agree with the method to
determine bias (or not) it was used to impose an AMA sanction on a member.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>IMHO this discussion suggests that bias has occurred in the D3
championship or possibly another at the same level FAI. If this is the case the
NSRCA must review this and apply the same discipline using the same measurables
to provide for the same sanctions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>If the NSRCA is unwilling to investigate or isn’t willing to use
the same method to determine bias, then clearly we (the NSRCA and AMA) have
disenfranchised a NSRCA member and should rethink his sanction.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Our rules and penalties must check and balance. Then they must be
applied to all members equally regardless of status in membership. This is the
only way to reduce / eliminate bias. I’m also unwilling to entertain the
thought the District Championship is any less important to the NATS. They are
both sanctioned contests ran by a CD accountable to the AMA.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Flame suit on…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Larry Diamond<o:p></o:p></span></font></st1:PersonName></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>----- Original Message ----- </span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;background:#E4E4E4;border:none;
mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>
<div style='font-color:black'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:kerlock@comcast.net" title="kerlock@comcast.net">Mike Hester</a> </span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> </span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>
Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:24 PM</span></font><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] D3 Championship</span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>He's not alone. Although he probably should work on the delivery
;)</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>I would support any of the 5 proposals that Ryan listed. Judging
FAI can be frustrating enough, but to be told you're not getting it right when
you're already doing everything you know how to do, that's a hard pill to
swallow regardless of the statement's accuracy.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>You guys out there do need to realize these guys can fly...and are
very good...problem is they're flying against this Jason dude, travels a lot,
flys all the time, might even have a national title or 2 along the way, not
sure. I'm sure you know the type. *ahem*</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Because my wife generally keeps scores in D3, we have some pretty
good access to each and every score entered. I can tell you guys without a
doubt at times there are some SERIOUS differences in scores between judges on
the same round. I don't mean a little, I mean like 100 points on the RAW score.
Even if this Jason character was flying straight 10s, the differences if you work
them out mean the others are barely flying a straight line....and that's not
the case. I have no doubt these guys don't think they should be beating Jason
in a 6 round contest where 2 of the rounds are "F" rounds, but I am
sure most people would agree the scoring could use some improvements.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Being one of these evil incompetent D3 masters judges *ahem* I
would certainly support more of a cooperative effort than some kind of protest.
I have been very supportive of all the FAI guys and especially the scoring, and
am usually the guys everybody throws something at during a judging seminar
because I'm trying to clarify something that effects mainly FAI. </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>I think to identify the "problem" will take a
willingness to recognize that the situation is caused by a <st1:place w:st="on">LOT</st1:place>
of factors, not any one or two. If anyone's interested, I'll outline the ones I
see clearly. </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>I'm not sure if this will all have the intended effect that jim
was looking for in the end, but if nothing else it does draw some attention to
a situation and we should have a closer look. </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>As for me, soon I'll be practicing, bracing for the onslought of
FAI pilots come to masters to punish me =)</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>-Mike</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>----- Original Message ----- </span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:43.5pt;background:#E4E4E4;border:none;
mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>
<div style='font-color:black'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:ryan_mclaughlin@ml.com" title="ryan_mclaughlin@ml.com">McLaughlin,
Ryan (FRS.JAX)</a> </span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> </span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:43.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>
Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:50 PM</span></font><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
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color:black'> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] D3 Championship</span></font><font size=2
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Woodward, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Jim</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 17, 2007
1:31 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] D3
Championship</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
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color:navy'>Ryan M.,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Thank you for the support.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>McLaughlin, Ryan (FRS.JAX)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 17, 2007
1:19 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [NSRCA-discussion] D3
Championship</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
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<p style='margin-left:79.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>This is
my first post to the NSRCA list as I am a bit 'internet shy', but I thought I
might be able to add some value to the FAI judging discussion <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Jim</st1:PersonName>
W started. Although I tend to err on the side of diplomacy : ), I believe
the feelings <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Jim</st1:PersonName> expressed are
legitimate and shared by many FAI competitors throughout the country. As
a long time participant, I realize that bias is not a new problem but I do not
think we should accept this is as a "fact of life" and move on.
I think we have an excellent opportunity here and we should make the most of
it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><ST1:PERSONNAME u1:st="on"></ST1:PERSONNAME><ST1:PERSONNAME u1:st="on"></ST1:PERSONNAME>The
primary issue to address in my opinion is not disparity in judging standards
between judges, though as Earl points out, this is important. Rather, it
is the different standard applied to pilots within one score set--i.e.. scoring
a pilot lower or higher based on who he is. Our penchant for creating
"superstars" is the most discouraging aspect of FAI
competition. To remedy this, we must all make a conscious decision to
change a long established tradition in our sport. Are we ready to take
this on?</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:79.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Complaining
isn't the answer and neither is staying quiet, a mistake that has made the FAI
competitors as responsible as anyone else for the situation. To this end,
I submit for your review the following ideas to specifically target the FAI
bias issue:</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:79.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>1.
Sacrifice one FAI round per contest to serve as an "open" round for
all contestants expected to judge FAI during the event. Allow everyone to
compare notes and use this as a coaching opportunity.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:79.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>2.
Drop one FAI pilot to Masters at each contest to serve as a judge for all
rounds and use volunteers from other classes to serve as the others. This
would have to be an agreement made among FAI pilots.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:79.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>3.
Extend the pilots meeting to go over specific issues, maybe a new one or two
every meet rather than just pointing out the landing zone, etc. Make a
"mini" judging seminar mandatory each contest.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:79.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>4.
Certify judges for FAI on a volunteer basis and only use "certified"
judges in the contest.</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:79.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>5.
Utilize peer judging, in other words, have FAI pilots judge themselves.
If a pilot is not flying, he is judging his fellow competitors.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:79.5pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Some of
this may seem radical, but I believe there is room for a bit of this.
Pattern belongs to us right? I welcome any ideas or critique anyone can
offer. I will clarify any of the above upon request.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Thank
you for your consideration.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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