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<DIV>I think there is one possible solution: just more judging clinics and training. In the last contest at central Kansas, one good friend and experience pilot suggested that we should have judging clinics when we are waiting for the sun get out of the way. In our area, we usually wait until 11:00 AM to start the contest. We know that pattern flyers are usually early birds. We could have judging clinics between 9-10:30 AM both days. This is 3 hours of training in one weekend. I know that this is not necessarily the case for other districts or fields or when the contest is very well attended. I will say that this clinics are very easy to implement when we have less than ~20 pilots registered. However, if there are more than 20 pilots just loosing a round to accommodate the judging clinic won't be a big problem.</DIV>
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<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>Vicente "Vince" Bortone</DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Courtney, Gary Ray <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:07 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'schroetere'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [NSRCA-discussion] D3 FAI<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=151063611-16102007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>yes! </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=151063611-16102007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=151063611-16102007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>All I can hope for is to please my hardest critic and judge (myself) because he truly knows what's being done in the air...That's why I very rarely look at the score sheets and standings they are always 4 or 5 points higher than I would give myself. It's like x-mas every contest. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=151063611-16102007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The ? mark was referring to the fact that I don't have a solution, Judging is not ever 100% perfect(human factor) it is what it is accept it or pull your hair out over it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=151063611-16102007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Having judged FAI on rare occasions, I can say it's not very enjoyable because the pressure I put on myself to try to be fair and consistent is considerable. just to many elements for my feeble brain to process...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=151063611-16102007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Gary</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> schroetere [mailto:schroetere@bellsouth.net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:33 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Courtney, Gary Ray<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] D3 FAI<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't know, Jim started it and I just want to see where it goes. Did you read his email below?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=grcourtney@tva.gov href="mailto:grcourtney@tva.gov">Courtney, Gary Ray</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:07 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] D3 FAI</DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>schroetere<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:20 AM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Cc:</B> Jim Woodward<BR><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] D3 FAI<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>Hey Jim,</FONT></FONT>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>I debated with myself to respond to you or the list. But, since you brought this up here, I'd like to hear some more from you and others as well.</FONT></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>I know that you are not alone in your frustration. We talked about this mid-season at length. I'm just not sure what can be done to "fix" judging differences. When it comes down to it, we are all human. Until we get some sort of camera hooked up to a computer, we will never have perfect judging. Even then, I'm sure someone will complain that the software algorithm that calculates the score isn't correct. All we as judges can do is sit down in the chair and do our best. Some times we get it right and some times we don't. It will never be better than that (my opinion).</FONT></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>I hate to see that you are feeling so beaten down that you feel a class switch is the only way to fix it. I have no doubt that you will have great success in Masters if that is what you choose. To me, all the guys flying FAI in our district should be there. You are all fantastic pilots.</FONT></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>So, what needs to be fixed in your opinion and how should this be done? </FONT></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>Thanks, </FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>Emory</FONT></FONT></P></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jim.woodward@baesystems.com href="mailto:jim.woodward@baesystems.com">Woodward, Jim</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=ryan_mclaughlin@ml.com href="mailto:ryan_mclaughlin@ml.com">McLaughlin, Ryan (FRS.JAX)</A> ; <A title=dist3@nsrca.org href="mailto:dist3@nsrca.org">NSRCA District III</A> ; <A title=JWalker@ponikvar.com href="mailto:JWalker@ponikvar.com">Joseph Walker</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 15, 2007 4:43 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] D3 Championship</DIV>
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