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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>What true pattern pilot isn't also a
test pilot? Our planes certification is a successful maiden flight.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> Del</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>From: "Ron Lockhart" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:ronlock@comcast.net"><FONT face=Arial
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 8:48
AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cross
Wind Components</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>I agree with John K's comments.<BR>>
Years ago received a briefing from a NASA test pilot that ran a light<BR>>
aircraft study<BR>> of spin capability. He also made the point that
when you exceed the number<BR>> of spin<BR>> turns you have become a test
pilot. Also noted that in his spin testing he<BR>> had found<BR>> a
number of planes that acted no different after exceeding the certified<BR>>
number, and<BR>> also a number that got real nasty. He also noted if CG
is out of limits,<BR>> your a test pilot.<BR>> <BR>> Later Ron
Lockhart<BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "John
Konneker" <</FONT><A href="mailto:jlkonn@hotmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jlkonn@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>><BR>> To: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>><BR>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 8:10 AM<BR>> Subject:
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Crashing on takeoff and landing<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>>> Chris Moon may want to correct me if I'm wrong but...<BR>>>
Crosswind components.<BR>>> The term is "demonstrated crosswind component"
and is just that...the<BR>>> maximum that was demonstrated during
certification.<BR>>> Talking full size here.<BR>>> You may not have
the skill to successfully land with the DCC or you may be<BR>> a<BR>>>
good enough pilot to successfully exceed the DCC.<BR>>> The DCC is not the
absolute limit of the airplane capability.<BR>>> Same with
spins.<BR>>> Something like a C-152 Aerobat is approved for
spins.<BR>>> 3 turns were demonstrated during certification.<BR>>>
They too may be exceeded...<BR>>> The only thing when you do you are
entering the realm of "Test Pilot".<BR>>> :-)<BR>>>
There!<BR>>> I'm going back to bed.<BR>>> My head hurts!<BR>>>
JLK<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> >From: "Del K. Rykert" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:drykert2@rochester.rr.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>drykert2@rochester.rr.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>><BR>>> >Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List <</FONT><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>><BR>>> >To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>><BR>>> >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Crashing on takeoff
and landing<BR>>> >Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 07:55:43 -0400<BR>>>
><BR>>> >Basically two big reasons. People sometimes have not
mastered the<BR>>> >transitory part of leaving or arriving in wind and
all flying vehicles<BR>> have<BR>>> >a crosswind limit that they can
be landed and taking off in. If it is<BR>>> >exceeded crashes are often
the result. Even the shuttle does and the<BR>>> >Concorde had crosswind
limits.<BR>>> ><BR>>> >
Del<BR>>> > ----- Original Message -----<BR>>>
> From: </FONT><A href="mailto:rjo626@aol.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>rjo626@aol.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>>> > To: </FONT><A
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color=#0000ff size=2>>> > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007
6:46 PM<BR>>> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion]
Turbulence<BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>>
> Then why do more people seem to
crash on takeoff or landing on<BR>>> >windy days?<BR>>>
>
RJO<BR>>>
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